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bOOstd GSX

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how do yo u mold sideskirts to the car? i know you need fiberglass mesh but does anyone have a vfaq or something? i dont understand resin and all of that other fun stuff.:rudolph:
 
bOOstd GSX said:
how do yo u mold sideskirts to the car? i know you need fiberglass mesh but does anyone have a vfaq or something? i dont understand resin and all of that other fun stuff.:rudolph:

No, I don't think there is a VFAQ on it. But you will need the following supplies to do it (quantities depend on style of skirt):

Fiberglass resin
Fiberglass matt
Latex Gloves
Cheap Brush
Mixing Bowls
Bondo w/spatchulars and cheese grate
Various Sand paper (80, 120-180, 220, 320-400)
Sanding Block
Denatured Alcohol
Acetone
Panel Bonding Epoxy
1" stainless screws that are the counter sink type
Counter Sink
Primer
Glazing putty


And of course one you have the skirts on to your liking, you will need your car painted.
 
DO NOT use fiberglass to mold your kit to your car, it will crack and you will have big problems. Fiberglass will not not bond to metal.

you need to use Panel-Bond. sand down the paint to the metal on the car, and to the fiberglass on the kit. mount the kit as normal using 2-part panel bond and screws where applicable. then, fill in the seams and whatnot with the 2-part Panel Bond. it is sandable and paintable. it will have SOME flex, whereas the fiberglass will not.

talk to a body man who is good with both metal and fiberglass. he will help you
 
devlish said:
DO NOT use fiberglass to mold your kit to your car, it will crack and you will have big problems. Fiberglass will not not bond to metal.

you need to use Panel-Bond. sand down the paint to the metal on the car, and to the fiberglass on the kit. mount the kit as normal using 2-part panel bond and screws where applicable. then, fill in the seams and whatnot with the 2-part Panel Bond. it is sandable and paintable. it will have SOME flex, whereas the fiberglass will not.

talk to a body man who is good with both metal and fiberglass. he will help you
Panel bond? Care to educate me a bit? I've been around the autobody world for a while now, and the only thing that would come close that (that i've heard of) is fusor. Fusor is sometimes used in place of welding 1/4 panels together, etc. Sounds interesting.
Later/joe
 
bOOstd GSX said:
can you maybe give me a quick lesson :confused:
i know what i need but not a clue on how to do it
Quick short version is:

Cut side skirt to fit car approx. and use drill to produce pilot holes for screws and counter sink. Note where side skirt touchs body and grind away all paint at those areas to bare metal. Affix side skirt to body with epoxy and screws after cleaning area well with denatured alcohol. Let dry approx 24 hours to ensure maximum hold. Grind seams of skirt close to the body and the body to bare metal for the body filler to adhere to feather the skirt in to the body panels. Now the fun part! Apply body filler (get a good kind/ Bondo will work but produces pin holes) and use cheese grate (where you can) to rough out the shape you want. Use 80 grit to futher the shap, etc etc (you will most likely need to apply another coat of body filler) and do it all over again and adventually work your way up to the high grits papers. Use the primer to view any mistakes and blemishes in your work...

Body shops around my area get 3k-4k just to install a kit (no paint), and you will soon learn why.

Hope this helps.
 
I know that part already. I've done it a couple times before (I paint cars for a hobby). Thanks for the refresher though :D hehe. Devlish is saying to use panelbond inplace of the fiberglass/fiberglass stranded filler. I've never heard of it.
 
Panel Bond = 2 - Part Epoxy

In the caulk like tube, you need a special gun & mixing tube for it

I guess that is the "fancy" name i used?? don't know? That's what i ask for, and have never been questioned.
 
Yeah, a 2 part epoxy like that is similar to fusor. Its meant for panel fusing in place of welding. I wouldnt use it as a filler though. I'm pretty sure its not meant to be applied like that. I'm not a fan of molding fiberglass to metal, due to the fact that they expand at different rates. But if done carefully, using FG mat, and then long strand FG filler the job should turn out well.
Later/joe
 
I agree with BigjDog84, Don't use the panel bond as the filler. here's what i meant:use the panel bond as the adhesive, and sand it fairly smooth using 60grit, scuff your metal body down the metal as well using 60grit too. Use fiberglass filler for the next coat, then a good filler for the final coats. (Rage Gold)

that's kind of what i meant. errr...., something like that anyways
 
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