mazda protege lip?

 

I'v heard about the mazda protoge, 240sx and integra lips can be modified. I'm sure are there some other ones its just not that easy to know for sure because they all have to go through some kind modification to fit. People have told me that one of the best things would go to shop that sells them and hold them up to your front.

 

does anyone know what years integras would fit because me and my friend were going to buy a bunch off ebay and make them for the 1g talons and eclipses and sell them on here..

 

Here's what I found out during each and everyone of these topics that pop up about the 1g lip. Do a search, and you'll find numerous topics.

1gb - The mazda protege lip can be used on the 92+ 1gb bumper styles with a little bit of custom work for extending it to completely wrap around the bumper.

90' bumper (N/a or GS-T) - The 90' style bumper has a few different options. 1st option is the stock 1g lip. Another option would be to modify a VW Gulf III lip to fit. They are similar enough to require minimum modification to fit. There was also a German manufacturer who made the lip, but they no longer manufacture the lip anymore.

Stock Lip

Seat Toledo Lip (same as Gulf III platform)

91' bumper (GSX or Tsi) - I haven't seen a post where somone actually found one that fit remotely close, besides the ABS lip that someone here made a while back (TOTalon).

ABS Plastic (not made by TOTalon) but similar

I've heard of people using Integra front lips, but I have yet to see a picture of one mounted on a car. I haven't heard of the 240sx lip either, but that may be an option. With a little fiberglassing skill, you can make just about anything work if you put the time in. It may not flow well with the car, but you could make anything fit with enough modification.

 

That white one is sweet. What year protege does that come off? Whos car is that? Where can I find one? Damn.

 

02 protege. Thats the one i'd like to see made up.

If you're going to produce these are you going to make them for 1ga's and 1gb's? Also, will you make them fit the 1g talons AND eclipses?

Really i'm just excited someone is finally doing this.

I really hope you make the price reasonable though.

 

That white one is sweet. What year protege does that come off? Whos car is that? Where can I find one? Damn.

Like the guy above mentioned, it's off an 02' protege. It looks good, but would only flow well with the 92+ style bumpers. The 90' - 91' GSX and Tsi bumpers will not look right with that lip IMO. The cheapest way to make a lip/splitter is by doing what the guy in the fourth pic did. He just purchased a large sheet of ABS plastic, created a template and cut it out. It looks pretty good, but I'm not into the support rods for the splitter.

 

That guy has them there because his FMIC made him have to lose his bumper support, So the beams are there to #1 support the lip, and #2 to suport the middle of the bumper cover.

I don't mind the splitter (abs) one, but i'd like to see something that adds a little zest to the stock bumper, like the protege one. If done well in a reproduction, it would be MEAN.

Imagine it in black with yellow fogs, GRRRRR!

 

The bottom curve on my 90 is almost exactly the same as the white one. I'm willing to bet it would work just as well. I mean, it needs modification anyway and I think the only difference is the "mouth" opening of the bumper. I think dimensionally it would be the same.
Anyone got a link to one of these?

 

Anyone got a link to one of these?

Ask and you shall receive:

http://www.mazdastuff.com/product.cfm?ProductID=1303

Expensive though!!!

 

Initally expensive yes, but make the necessary mods to the lip, make a mold and you have mass production!!

I've been trying to round people into this for a while, but if we all put forth even like 20 bucks to get the inital product and "casting" done, then we get a discount on the finals when they're made.

I know A LOT of 1g guys who would die for this to actually be a real thing so. . . I dunno, i say go for it. Give us 1gb guys something to smile about!

 

the lips will be for the 1992 talons and eclipses for now so we will be using the 02 protege lips for now and depending on how the first one comes out and how long it takes for my car we will start to produce more of them for the 1992 then we might look into someone with a 1991 or 1990 or just a bumper to make a mold of that so i will let you all know how it goes

 

PLEASE keep us posted. I've been hoping for this for a long time, so i hope everything goes smoothly.

Also, hit us with an estimate on cost (hopefully around a 2g spoiler price).

 

I'll do it. I have tons of fiberglass experience and can start selling these for about 75$ shipped once I get one and pop a mold. Give me a couple months to sort out some other projects I have going on, and I'll get er dun. I've never promised anything to you guys on this forum, but I definately know a good thing when I see it. Anyone interested IM me, and we can get the ball rolling on this project. Push comes to shove, if theres a demand, I can evn make them in CF if wanted. Like I said. Give me some time (I'll keep you posted) and I will be doing these soon enough.

 

Carbon Fiber Yes Please!!!!! You'll have to extent the ends of the mazda lip. You'll figure it out. : ) I'll spend 125 shipped for a carbon fiber one.

 

75 for it is awsome! Im down for one asap!

 

wow if you are actually going to do this, i will for sure get in on it. keep us posted.

 

It will set me aside from the other red talon 1gb with a CF hood in town who is a DOUCHE. Which is good for me! haha!

That and i don't lie about my car.

he says his car with a b16g, gm maf, stock sidemount and licp, and STOCK INJECTORS running "18-20" psi on the strip runs 12's.

Anyone else see an problem with that logic, cuz i sure do.

Sorry, back on topic. . . I WANT ONE! Even if the sides were a little meh like the white talon ^^ i'm alright with that. I jsut want some more UMPH on the front end.

 

I ran a 16g at 18 psi on stock 450s and pump gas with no issues.

I'd be interested in that 1ga lip if you're gonna make them.

 

Trust guys, If I'm going to do the R&D and bodywork to develop a front lip spoiler, it will be bodyworked to look like it was meant to be. I agree that the white one looks like it was just bondoed on the sides, but I see no reason why that can't be molded flush to look like this:

It's upsetting that it doesn't flow with that horizontal bodyline going through the center of the bumper, but I'm guessing that the whole lip sits slightly pitched upward in order to fit the contour of the eclipse bumper. My thinking is that the underside of that white car has a gap between the lip and the bumper. I would fill that to be more of a bolt on situation. Is that a concern to you guys enough to re work the piece to flow with that line? I could do something like this, but the price will go up slightly because of the amount of body work required to get this effect:

Keep in mind, I won't sell anything that isn't ready for a quick scuff/wetsand and paint.

Now what would you guys prefer as far as mounting options? It could be set up two ways. One, it could fit snugly and mount with 3M double sided tape, which is strong enough to last the life of the bumper, and will keep cost down. Or I can make it with studs to bolt directly to the bumper: One on each far end and several on the lower front of the lip that could hopefully be attached from underneath where the holes would never be seen if it was to ever need to be removed.

Give me some feedback, and I'll get something going well before christmas. Maybe you guys could have one of these under your tree if theres enough of a demand.

 

Most aftermarket lip kits for new cars (even factory ones) use the super adhesive 3m tape. So i'd say go with that to keep cost down.

Now. . . as far as the body lines. . . That one is tough for me.

I LOVE how you could get it to flow with the stock lines, but how much would that raise cost? Because if you made the mold with it already like that it shouldn't be too bad (although initally i'm sure it would be a PITA).

I'd have to know cost differences before i decide. BUT, if it is going to be too much of a change i think leaving it like it is in the 1st pic is ok, because honestly, until you mentioned it, i didn't notice. I was more in awe of the look the lip gives to the front that i didn't even notice the lines. I just noticed where he filled in to make it wrap.

 

i have to agree, i would rather have it like the one in the second pic, but only if the cost stays around the same price. also, if you were to do a carbon fiber lip, how much would we be looking at for one of those?

 

Most aftermarket lip kits for new cars (even factory ones) use the super adhesive 3m tape. So i'd say go with that to keep cost down.

Now. . . as far as the body lines. . . That one is tough for me.

I LOVE how you could get it to flow with the stock lines, but how much would that raise cost? Because if you made the mold with it already like that it shouldn't be too bad (although initally i'm sure it would be a PITA).

I'd have to know cost differences before i decide. BUT, if it is going to be too much of a change i think leaving it like it is in the 1st pic is ok, because honestly, until you mentioned it, i didn't notice. I was more in awe of the look the lip gives to the front that i didn't even notice the lines. I just noticed where he filled in to make it wrap.

Ditto

 

Well, it's hard to say the price increase. To be completely honest with you guys, it's just the fact that it would be such a PITA to bodywork it that I'd say the price would only go up by like 15-25 bucks depending on how many people will ACTUALLY want one. Obviously volume will make the price adjust accordingly, but I can't see a fiberglass one costing anymore than 100$ regardless of what the scenario is.
A carbon lip is very doable, it's just locating a reputable supplier. I used to get all of my supplies from a local vendor until the owner got hit by a bus and the business went under (go figure). I've been trying to hook up with another company, but the prices are ridiculous. Have any of you ever actually priced vinylester/epoxy resin? It's a bitch how much loot that and the cloth are going for these days. Before Fast And The Furious it went for damn near the price of fiberglass, but adding into account CF pieces must be wetsanded and clearcoated, the price has always generally been high since there is so much labor involved in producing a piece with no bubbles, even thread pattern, nice edges, and a glossy finish. It's quite the royal pain in the crack. To be honest with you, I'd target it to be around 175$ and thats being fair. I guess the best thing I can say, is lets wait a month or so and I will be getting this lip and begin the whole process. We'll just take it from there.

 

I'll pay 175 for the carbon fiber one. No joke.