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2001M3 vs me caught on tape

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A few weekends ago, I was searching for some prey on the local streets. I had my DV camera in the car, and happen to stumble upon a new M3 that was anxious to play. We started out side by side in 2nd where i left him pretty easily. Traffic wasn't the best and there wasn't really anywhere to go, so he was forced to change lanes and get behind me. The video clip we have is him trying to overcome me. Notice how I accelerated in 2nd, matched his speed, and began to pass him quickly when i shifted to 3rd, but was forced to shut down and brake due to a stupid SUV in my way. My family owns an older 1998 m3 which makes 240hp and is pretty much a joke compared to my dsm, but these newer m3's are pretty damn fast. They sound like an air pump, so to speak, and are pretty powerful, i think in the 330hp range. Anyway i hope you all enjoy.

http://members.home.com/skoob

Go to my pitiful excuse for a web page and click the link

Peace!
 
#3 ·
Yeah... the quality isn't bad at all.. but
1. need more room to run
2. gotta teach yer friend to get the other car in the video too =)... next time run on the left side so you can have your friend tape from her side.
 
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#4 ·
What kind of times are you running with your current setup Cazzo? Your car looks good. Also, what DV camera do you have? One of the Sony's? I've been thinking of getting on myself.
 
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#5 ·
Yeah your right, my g/f likes to film my s-afc more than the race hehe. The whole incident happened so quickly that she barely had time to get ready ,and she forgot I didnt want to see my interior but the M3. Oh well, it was a rare chance that I had the camera and an M3 wanted to race. Im happy I got just a small bit of it on tape.

I havent run my car for any solid times, so I cant really say with confidence. Ill say between high 12's to mid 13's. I do know that I am making at least 300 whp though

I used a Sony DV camera
 
#6 ·
Nice Video

Darn, what happened to my last post?
Oh well, here it goes again.

That was a nice video.
It looks like he wasn't really racing though. If he was a good driver and racing, you would have seen his tires smoking at that speed (looks like it was about 30-40) when he downshifted into 2nd. Anyway, that video was pretty good quality. Man, I need a nice digital camera

One question though, did you dynoed your car to come up with "at least 300 horses"?

00 M Roadster
5.1 60
13.7 1/4 (GTechPro)
 
#8 ·
Have you driven a new M3?

Well, if you downshift from 35-40, into 2nd gear in a new M3, it will be almost impossible to not to smoke tires. Unless you just slow down your car dramatically. At 35-40, if you downshift into 2nd, you will be smoking your tires a bit, but the car will launch like a rocket. Have you even driven a new M3? If you have driven a new M3, and raced it from 35-40mph properly, you wouldn't have said what you said.

Besides, at 35-40, you won't be stuck "burning your tires", like when you are at a stop sign. I thought skilled DSM drivers would know that?
 
#9 ·
Your car sounds damn good! The M sounded pretty good too but DAMN, when you nailed it and spooled, I wet myelf.
 
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#10 ·
Actually you cant smoke the tires in an M3 in any gear. Thank your German engineers for ASC, because without it, most BMW drivers would be off the road.

I haven't dynoed my car so I said "at least 300whp" as a very conservative number based on what other people with similar mods have dynoed. It's closer to 350whp..=)

In the video, the guy didnt downshift to 2nd. When the video starts, I was slowing down to wait for him from the first run. He changed lanes from behind me, gunned it to pass me, and then I timed it so that he would be next to me when i started to get on it. This is why you see his nose peak in front of me for just a second before i began to pass him.

M-power: do you drive a dsm or just a slow M roadster? Not to bash your ride but, I leave M3's behind in any situation like vw beetles, especially the old 240hp american models. If you read my first post, you would see that my family owns one and its been raced plenty of times against my car. I raced a modified M3 a few years back when i was still running the stock turbo and only 16psi, it was pretty even back then, but now its not even worth my time.

I love turbo's...Add a turbo to your M roadster, then maybe you would have something to talk about on this board. Until then....enjoy the smell of my exhaust!!
 
#11 ·
Ha ha ha

The reason I come to this message board is because I used to own 6 speed Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo. Ever since then, I like Mitshu performance cars.
If you know anything about BMW M series, you will know that M Roadster is faster than any stock E36 M3. I register 5.1 to 60 and 13.7 to 1/4 mile, in completely stock form. What did your eclipse register in stock? ; )
If you put all the mod in your car and made it go faster, it's cool, man. I can respect that. I just pointed out that, a good driver in a new M3 should have downshifted. That doesn't mean he could have beat you though.
Oh, on a sid note, for goodness's sake man, no skilled drivers drive their M cars with "ASC" or "DSC" switch on. ha ha ha, give me a break!!!
I have respect for DSM cars, but you guys certainly do not seem to know anything about M cars other than, "someone else used to own it and I drove it sometimes"...
 
#12 ·
Oh, I wanted a turbo, I would have kept my Twin Turbo. If I wanted to go fast, I would have bought a used Supra which is about 10-15k less than my car in the market. Fast DSMs are cool, cause they weren't meant to be "fast sports" cars, but you guys worked on them to go faster. However, it's sad to see that some of you think your eclipse is better any other cars. I have respect for fast cars and true car enthusiast. Obviously, some of you aren't.

Regardless, enjoy your ride man.
 
#13 ·
Pfft

First off, where I live, there arent very many BMW owners who street race. This guy was by no means a street racer...he was an older man playing around as I was. I don't even think most BMW owners know what ASC is or even where the button is.

"someone else used to own it and I drove it sometimes"...For this comment, I'll let you in on a secret. I've used it as a daily driver for weeks at a time. I don't know everything about BMW's (as you do) but I do know alot about them. They have always been one of my favorite cars, my family loves them and continues to buy them.

A race is a race...i don;t give excuses to Mustangs that kill me by saying well..."what did your car do stock", I modified my car to make it fast not to hear people cry..."yeah but stock it is slow and I would've beat you"

One thing I'd like to correct you on..."If you know anything about BMW M series, you will know that M Roadster is faster than any stock E36 M3" this is completely untrue... last month I was driving the M3...you know the one i Dont know anything about and don't drive often....well i raced an M roadster....THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFRERENCE....It was completely even through all 4 gears...

Ok I'm going to end this now. No need to get upset. I posted that for viewing enjoyment and I did say that, it really WAS NOT a race, but just some fun quick runs I happened to catch on film. I also did not say that "I KILLED A 2001 M3", I merely said that I THINK it wouldve been a close race since i pulled him some. Peace!
 
#14 ·
Ha ha ha, I wasn't defending that new M3 man. If you think you won, you won. Doesn't make a difference. No need to be defensive. ; ) We are all car lovers here.

However, I can not believe you make judgements on M cars if you didn't actually "own" one. Again, you certainly don't know about M cars. Go ask anyone who owns E36 M3 and M Roadster. How can a M Roadster be the same as E36 M3 when it's lighter by at least 250lb? Give me a break.

What distinguishes a ricer and a car enthusiast?
A Ricer: someone who thinks his car is the bomb and doesn't acknowlege other quality cars.
A Car enthusiast: someone who appreciates all performance cars and know about them. someone who doesn't go off and say "i have at least 300 horese" without actually putting his car on a dyno machine.

Enjoy your ride~!
 
#15 ·
M Power---Do you read? Ok start from the beginning of the thread and read everything carefully....

1) I do own an M3 (read from beginning)
2) I never said I won (re read again...you missed that in 3 places)
3) I appreciate performance cars like BMW's (you can read that in a previous one too)
4) I don't report numbers from G-tech pro like 13.7 and 0-60 in 5,8 and then remove it so people don't laugh. (you couldve read this too but you removed it)
5)where did i say my car was the shit and no one can mess with it? (I would like to read that somewhere)
6) What makes you think I'm a ricer and don't appreciate other quality performance cars? (re-read once again from the beginning) thats a Lame comeback and I wasnt defensive about anything until that comment.

Anyway, M-power, thanks for proving to everyone how immature and stuck-up luxury performance car owners can be, you fit into your own description of a ricer....maybe a sourkraut.
 
#16 ·
1. You said your parents own M3?
2. You are right, you didn't say you won, so I give you credit for it
3. You appreciate performance cars and say such thing as "do you own a DSM or just a slow M Roadster"? I find the very ironic???
4. I am busy at work, so I can't type that signature all the time. Would I want to bother going into my profile and change it? Not really.
5. "If you dont' have a turbo, it's not worh my time"...isn't that what you said? Doesn't that indicate your car is better than mine? Don't say one thing and try to hide by saying something else man. Say one thing and back it up!!!
6. Read my number 5 again.

All I have shown here with first post was respect to DSMs and comment on driving a M3 properly, but you just went ahead and try to put down my car. What did you expect to get out of it?
Responding to your last statement. Only fools make such judgements. I don't judge people like that. I just pose ideas. Are you sure you aren't the immature one to be on judging people like that? ha ha ha. You make me laugh man...I hope other DSM drivers aren't like you, otherwise, I will lose my respect to ALL DSM drivers.
 
#17 ·
I hope all BMW owners aren't like you either otherwise I might lose respect for all luxury car drivers.

You are good at twisting things around. I'll give you that.

thanks for bashing something that was fun to begin with. Just remember I didnt start this..you did.

I, like you, am working and don't have time for this, but most of your bullet remarks arent even things I said or were things that weren't directed at you.

Albeit i did say your M-toadster was slow so you got me there. I do regret bashing your car. it was immature on my part, but what can i say, i persoanlly don't care. It doesn't mean i don't appreciate performance cars. Go ahead and explain your logic for that comment, I'm interested.

As far as who owns what...does your wife say she owns YoUR home? It doesnt really matter..the point is she lives there and uses it and can talk knowingly about it.. that is my point...I have the abilty to back everything I say up. If your interested, would you like to know that I can also beat the 540 in my family by a horrifying distance? And this 540 will smoke the M3. Does that make me a ricer because i have a fast car and like to talk about it?

peace out and no hard feeling M-power.

One more thing- people on this board don't want or need your respect- your a spec in almost everyone reaview to begin with. YOu mean you want us to repsect you? Well, good luck there after alot of people read this thread.

[Edited by Cazzo on 06-20-2001 at 04:51 PM]
 
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I hope all BMW owners aren't like you either otherwise I might lose respect for all luxury car drivers.
--ha ha ha, good try, repeating what i said. very lame.

You are good at twisting things around. I'll give you that.
--i just repeat what you said, and i twisted things around? Ha ha ha, you really make me laugh.

thanks for bashing something that was fun to begin with. Just remember I didnt start this..you did.
--read your first post responding to mine. are you blind?

I, like you, am working and don't have time for this, but most of your bullet remarks arent even things I said or were things that weren't directed at you.
--again, saying one thing and saying another go get out

Albeit i did say your M-toadster was slow so you got me there. I do regret bashing your car. it was immature on my part, but what can i say, i persoanlly don't care. It doesn't mean i don't appreciate performance cars. Go ahead and explain your logic for that comment, I'm interested.
--you are right. i can't be sure if you do appreciate performance cars or not. bashing on someone's car doesn't help your argument.

As far as who owns what...does your wife say she owns YoUR home? It doesnt really matter..the point is she lives there and uses it and can talk knowingly about it.. that is my point...I have the abilty to back everything I say up. If your interested, would you like to know that I can also beat the 540 in my family by a horrifying distance? And this 540 will smoke the M3. Does that make me a ricer because i have a fast car and like to talk about it?
--again, you just don't know about BMWs. 540 is a nice car, but it is far from being a "sport car". 540 is fast, but it hardly runs in high 14's. You are faster than that? Good for you. read my what i said on what qualifies as a ricer from my previous post. if you like talking about your fast car. that's fine. i like fast DSMs too. if you bash on cars that you dont' know, that may qualify as a ricer? don't you think? Oh by the way, what my parents' own aren't mine. But I sure enjoy giving things to them. Does that answer your question?

peace out and no hard feeling M-power.
--same to you

One more thing- people on this board don't want or need your respect- your a spec in almost everyone reaview to begin with. YOu mean you want us to repsect you? Well, good look there after alot of people read this thread.
--did i say "i want respect from you?" why didn't you say so, cause i sure don't remember saying it. ha ha ha.

The point is clear here. If you dont' know what you are talking about, stop pretending to know. Acknowlege it. I don't know much about DSMs. That's why I come to this message board and read what you guys say.
 
#21 ·
That's right, just turn away. you seem to be good at that.
You are wise to turn away from the heat if you can't handle it. You aren't that stupid after all. Ha ha ha
 
#22 ·
Are you helping out this guy, "92TSI"?
Ha ha ha. Good, "CAS" you aren't the only idiot out of other DSMers.

"92TSI", you park cars for living?
Ha ha ha
Enough said
 
#24 ·
I just wondered in here and what do I find? A battlefield? Come on, guys. Both of you brough up good points, but boths of you are stubborn and won't admit where you went wrong.

M Power. Do you know the joy of modifying a car? Than I'm sure that you can relate. There is no need to start throwing insults because you aren't happy with someone's point of view. Please lay off the "ha-ha-ha". You're writing, not narrating.

Cazzo. Chill with the flames. No need to get personal in an argument like that. Your point is valid but you can't seem to explain it properly. Take a deep breath.

OneDamnFast 92TSI. I'm sure that you are well aware about what M roadsters are good for. It may not have the acceleration, but it sure has handling, durability and great ingeneering. Thrashing a car without doing your research is childish.
 
#26 ·
NItrox is right

I'll buy M-Power a Vodka on the rocks since i bashed him first. Then I'll take him for a ride...=) (bring the G-tech)

I did want to stop waaaaaaaay back but it kept coming. Oh well, too late to go back.

So back to the video, which is why i started this thread.

Anyone else have anything to comment on? Like it, don't like it? I was just interested in seeing what people thought about a new M3, since its still a pretty rare find on the streets. As I said way in the beginning of this.."the new M3's are pretty damn fast"

Oh yeah..sorry for wasting a page of B.S.
 
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