I just bought the 150psi coolmist setup for my 14b. I was just wondering what kind of results you guys have been getting?
Anyone running 14b and Watter or Alch Injection?
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I know there are a few guys out there running it with good results. I met a guy at the track running alky on his evo running 11's, but did a lot of tuning and other work on it. Let us know how it goes once its in and what you think of it (power increase, knock decrease ect.)
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My goal for my car is run it in the 20psi range with a ported 14b with a dual nozzle water injection setup put both nozzles running off of hobb swithed(boost activated) along side the nitrous control used in dsmlink to control it. I'm hoping to run a 12.5 in my car with almost every supporting mod already on it. I'm just getting my car up and going, so i'm stil on stock boost and messing with everything then i'll slowly be adding higher boost and then water injection.
Yea it was sweet. The car is stock looking. First run pulled up against a camaro with a big ol hood scoop. Everyones jaws dropped when it wasted the camaro off the line and through the whole run. The camaro did run low 12's respectfully. Had a lot of old timers asking to check out the car after that. Good to show what technology and hard work can do, you know.
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With a 14b, big SMIC, and Coolingmist 150psi single nozzle setup, I've gone 12.1 @ 112 on VP unleaded. I run 80% meth and 20% distilled.
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those are some awsome times. ive gone to a few evo meets, and it seems like everyone of them has an water/alky injection kit on their cars.
i have 2 dodge friends running it with really good results, we recently opened up my friends 2.2 litre turbo dodge motor and it was clean as a whistle due to the alky injection.
i have 2 dodge friends running it with really good results, we recently opened up my friends 2.2 litre turbo dodge motor and it was clean as a whistle due to the alky injection.
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I'm running a ported 14b, small fmic, full 3", 2g maf, big injectors and a dual nozzle, single stage boost activated water injection setup. I run bug juice.
Works well. My car runs 22psi on pump gas. runs nearly 3200lbs and on hockey puck tires(very traction limited 1.82 60') I can get a 12.90 out of it. no nitrous, stock from valve cover to oil pan.
Works well. My car runs 22psi on pump gas. runs nearly 3200lbs and on hockey puck tires(very traction limited 1.82 60') I can get a 12.90 out of it. no nitrous, stock from valve cover to oil pan.
Cool, I'm glad somone is here I can ask questions about this with.. I'm running Dsmlink, 3.3bar map, PLX-M300, 150psi Coolingmist, 14b, 3in turbo back, Aeromotive 13109 w/ full -6an SS lines from the filter to the return. 255hp rewired pump, Injen intake, Intake heat sheild, MBC. Some other unimportant stuff. My 14b isn't ported, but I did grind away the side of the o2 passage to allow the wastegate flapper to fully open.
When you say "big juice" do you mean -30deg winsheild fluid or 100% Alchy? Did you wire in any LED's to your dash for indication of the Pump being on, or injectors fireing?
I've very intrested in hearing about your personal gains with your kit... 12.9 is bad ass. I'm hopeing for somthing simular. Will see in about a month.
When you say "big juice" do you mean -30deg winsheild fluid or 100% Alchy? Did you wire in any LED's to your dash for indication of the Pump being on, or injectors fireing?
I've very intrested in hearing about your personal gains with your kit... 12.9 is bad ass. I'm hopeing for somthing simular. Will see in about a month.
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for "BUG juice" I mean plain old, cheapest you can find, blue windshield washer fluid. The cheaper the better because that stuff is just half water, half methanol, with a tad of blue dye. No fancy cleaners or lubes etc.
I don't have any LED's wired in, I just didn't have time, but now I don't need em. I would like to have some sort of float system to tell me if my tank is getting dry, as I have to check it frequently. I set it with a test light, the solenoid opens at around 4psi. I can hear the pump from the drivers seat if I listen carefully and I am not on it hard, say climbing a slight hill in higher gear.
as for gains, yes, this stuff works well, its been around for over half a century. The Turbo Buick guys love it, Bonneville salt flat speed demons love it, F1 used it thru thier turbo era, and many more.
Not only does it cool your intake charge and make power that way, but it allows more boost on the same fuel. No way you are gonna run 22psi+ on a 14b with my smallish intercooler on pump gas. Most can't get that out of a small 16g on pump. I have 0 knock most of the time, and maybe once in a while 1-3 counts, but even thats rare.
the third thing it does is steam clean and decarbonize your combustion chambers, intake valves, throttle body and intake manifold. All shiny clean. This helps with emissions testing, fuel economy and it also eliminates carbon build up that creates knock. No glowing pieces of carbon to preignite the mixture.
Some have good luck using pure mentanol or higher concentraions such as 70% methyl-hydrate.
get good nozzles. These are really important. I use Aquamist nozzles. They cost a bit more, but they are very high quality. They supply FIA teams for assorted top level racing. Also get a good pump that can handle methanol. And a quality solenoid is important too, so it doesn't leak, corrode etc. Its nice to have a solenoid that turns on quickly and shuts off quickly.
as for 12.90, yea, not too shabby considering. Thanx
The car has power for more than that, just not with those tires
I don't have any LED's wired in, I just didn't have time, but now I don't need em. I would like to have some sort of float system to tell me if my tank is getting dry, as I have to check it frequently. I set it with a test light, the solenoid opens at around 4psi. I can hear the pump from the drivers seat if I listen carefully and I am not on it hard, say climbing a slight hill in higher gear.
as for gains, yes, this stuff works well, its been around for over half a century. The Turbo Buick guys love it, Bonneville salt flat speed demons love it, F1 used it thru thier turbo era, and many more.
Not only does it cool your intake charge and make power that way, but it allows more boost on the same fuel. No way you are gonna run 22psi+ on a 14b with my smallish intercooler on pump gas. Most can't get that out of a small 16g on pump. I have 0 knock most of the time, and maybe once in a while 1-3 counts, but even thats rare.
the third thing it does is steam clean and decarbonize your combustion chambers, intake valves, throttle body and intake manifold. All shiny clean. This helps with emissions testing, fuel economy and it also eliminates carbon build up that creates knock. No glowing pieces of carbon to preignite the mixture.
Some have good luck using pure mentanol or higher concentraions such as 70% methyl-hydrate.
get good nozzles. These are really important. I use Aquamist nozzles. They cost a bit more, but they are very high quality. They supply FIA teams for assorted top level racing. Also get a good pump that can handle methanol. And a quality solenoid is important too, so it doesn't leak, corrode etc. Its nice to have a solenoid that turns on quickly and shuts off quickly.
as for 12.90, yea, not too shabby considering. Thanx
The car has power for more than that, just not with those tiresThe Pump is a Shurflo Alcohol approved pump. As for the injectors, I don't know much about the 300cc injector I'm receving from Coolingmist. I'm sure it's going to be just fine. I'm sure you knew this allready, but the only winsheild washer fluid that has 49/49% water/alcholol is the -30deg type. As the temp rises so does the need for alochol to keep the freezing point down.
The kit will be here 19th. :tree: comes early this year..
The kit will be here 19th. :tree: comes early this year..
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and you know this from experience?
I have seen a couple of intake manifolds, cylinder heads and intercooler pipes that have had smurf piss in them for well over 2 years with no problems.
I also know that lots of people run it and it works fine for them as well. I did have a little bit of discolouration when I had my nozzle before the bov, some of it would be sent back to the turbo thru the return pipe, but that wiped out very easily.
I would caution a bit on using any form of fluid with methanol in it on mild steel. it will rust it fairly quickly. All my pipes are aluminum.
I have seen a couple of intake manifolds, cylinder heads and intercooler pipes that have had smurf piss in them for well over 2 years with no problems.
I also know that lots of people run it and it works fine for them as well. I did have a little bit of discolouration when I had my nozzle before the bov, some of it would be sent back to the turbo thru the return pipe, but that wiped out very easily.
I would caution a bit on using any form of fluid with methanol in it on mild steel. it will rust it fairly quickly. All my pipes are aluminum.
RippinGSX said:Don't use washer fluid.
Thank-you Mister Know-it-all.
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