I relocated mine to the trunk using 2ga wire and a 140amp circut breaker so I knew for sure I would have sufficent power but 4ga should be plenty.

I dont know how much current 4ga can take (I was told my 2ga could take 160 amps no prob) but i'm pretty sure that the fuse for the alternator is 80 amp and if it was me i'd have my main fuse at least equal to, preferably larger than any other fuse in my car.

But thats JMHO

 

I relocated mine to the trunk using 2ga wire and a 140amp circut breaker so I knew for sure I would have sufficent power but 4ga should be plenty.

I dont know how much current 4ga can take (I was told my 2ga could take 160 amps no prob) but i'm pretty sure that the fuse for the alternator is 80 amp and if it was me i'd have my main fuse at least equal to, preferably larger than any other fuse in my car.

But thats JMHO

here's a link for the size of wire, I'm under 19 ft so i'm sure 4 will be enough. http://www.crutchfield.com/installguide/S-OKI7p7twSh3/cable_gauge.html

I was at circut city last night and they had 80 amp fused so maybe Ill go pick some up. Too bad I allready bought 4 60's at radio shack last night. I just figured with the 30 amp fuse on the fuel pump rewire and having that sepperate the rest of the car would only need a 80 amp fuse. Oh well.

 

The average starter will generate around 100 or more amps while cranking. You 60 amp fuse will pop in no time. I have a 140 amp circuit breaker and I still break it sometimes. Only if it takes longer then average cranking time of course. Look into getting a 140-160 amp circuit breaker. Rockford Fosgate makes one for around $40. Other then that, I got one on ebay for $20.

 

The average starter will generate around 100 or more amps while cranking. You 60 amp fuse will pop in no time. I have a 140 amp circuit breaker and I still break it sometimes. Only if it takes longer then average cranking time of course. Look into getting a 140-160 amp circuit breaker. Rockford Fosgate makes one for around $40. Other then that, I got one on ebay for $20.

This is what I get for thinking about how the alternator only puts out about 60 ish amps. Oh well. Maybe I'll just run 2 80 amp AGU fuses in parell?

 

This is what I get for thinking about how the alternator only puts out about 60 ish amps. Oh well. Maybe I'll just run 2 80 amp AGU fuses in parell?

You could do that but according to your chart you've now passed the max for 4ga wire. You could run 2 60's in parell and still be within limit for 4ga. If you keep blowing fuses then you will probobly have to upgrade to thicker wire and get bigger fuses.

I also prefer breakers but thats just so that if a fuse blows I wont be left sitting on the side of the road if I dont have any fuses...

 

You could do that but according to your chart you've now passed the max for 4ga wire. You could run 2 60's in parell and still be within limit for 4ga. If you keep blowing fuses then you will probobly have to upgrade to thicker wire and get bigger fuses.

I also prefer breakers but thats just so that if a fuse blows I wont be left sitting on the side of the road if I dont have any fuses...

I'm actualy down to the 10-13 ' range of wire, plus its only for as long as it takes to start the car, so what? 10 seconds at the most? I looked up the stats on the starter in the service manual and it says max draw is 90 amps with no load, so that wasn't of much help I don't think it would be too high beacuse its a brand new starter from mitsu (bought it about 2 months ago). I guess I'll just bite the bullet and get a nice circut breaker.

 

I'm actualy down to the 10-13 ' range of wire, plus its only for as long as it takes to start the car, so what? 10 seconds at the most? I looked up the stats on the starter in the service manual and it says max draw is 90 amps with no load, so that wasn't of much help I don't think it would be too high beacuse its a brand new starter from mitsu (bought it about 2 months ago). I guess I'll just bite the bullet and get a nice circut breaker.

good call. you should be able to buy a circuit breaker from any decent audio store. i paid like $25 for mine, but i get a bit of a dicount. i think they're normally around $30-35.

 

Yep buy the breaker. Wiring fuses in parallel will NEVER work. I don't know what makes you think that. If one blows what is preventing the other from not blowing? You are still running 130+ amps through them. If one fuse is only rated at 80 amps, why will 2 of them make them handle more?!?!?!? Think about what you said and why it wont work.

90 amps with NO LOAD! You always have a load on the starter regardless of the starter being old or new. You are not going to get less amp draw just because of how old your starter is. Turn your headlights on, turn your radio on, bump some subs, run the automatic window, turn the dome lights on, door ajar lamp, and now turn over your starter. I wonder how many amps you will draw then!

Do it right, or do it twice!


Oh and if your car takes 10 seconds to start then there is something wrong.

 

Wiring fuses in parallel will NEVER work.

while I agree it is best to go with a single large ciruit breaker, I think your wrong here.

If two fuses are in parallel and are the same size then the total system acts as if it was one fuse equal to twice the rating of the smaller fuse. If he has two 60 amp fuses in parallel and the started drew 110 amps, 55amps would go through each fuse and they wouldn't blow. If the system drew 130 amps then each fuses would get 65 amps and both would blow. Thats how the system is supose to work. btw, i've been running 2 80 amps in parallel for months, it works for me.

Also bigger isn't always better i wouldn't go over 160 amps total, bc then your not getting the protection that the fuse is supose to provide.

 

Yep buy the breaker. Wiring fuses in parallel will NEVER work. I don't know what makes you think that. If one blows what is preventing the other from not blowing? You are still running 130+ amps through them. If one fuse is only rated at 80 amps, why will 2 of them make them handle more?!?!?!? Think about what you said and why it wont work.

90 amps with NO LOAD! You always have a load on the starter regardless of the starter being old or new. You are not going to get less amp draw just because of how old your starter is. Turn your headlights on, turn your radio on, bump some subs, run the automatic window, turn the dome lights on, door ajar lamp, and now turn over your starter. I wonder how many amps you will draw then!

Do it right, or do it twice!


Oh and if your car takes 10 seconds to start then there is something wrong.

First I'm going to state that I allready have the breaker. Bought a 150 amp off www.sounddomain.com(one of the few online places I trust to get me my shit asap, and they did. I ordred it fedex 2nd day air, and it was here 2 days after I ordered it).

With that out of the way, I don't know what gave you the idea that 2 fuses in parell wouldn't work. each one is going to be seeing half the current, just like thegreatms stated. Maybe you should think about things before you say them? Maybe you should also read what other people say. "I looked up the stats on the starter in the service manual and it says max draw is 90 amps with no load,so that wasn't of much help" Thank you captian obvious for pointing out that a starter alwase has a load(no shit, it wouldn't be the engine its trying to start would it?). I don't know about you but most of the power accesorys in my car turn off when your starting the car(Radio atleast) although the windows and headlights do stay on. How often am I rolling down the windows at the same time I'm starting the car? almost never. And even if my stereo did stay on, my huge system consists of a clarion cd player, and 2 speakers in the front doors. My car has seen just a bit of weight reduction =) As for current draw, I rembered my auto shop teacher mentioning that somtimes old starters will draw alot more curret, and this is one of the signs that your starter is going out. And just for reference the 10 seconds was mention beacuse thats how long you try to start the car in when your pre lubing a new turbo(at least 30 seconds total, in 10 sec sessions). Next time don't try to sound like such a smart ass, when you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Wow. You come to a site and ask for help. I tried to help but I guess I couldn't. WTF damn. True a starter will draw more amps when it is about to go out but replacing a good starter with a new good one shouldn't change anything. 10 seconds to start? I thought you were saying it took that on average. If you are going to say something that make sure you mention the circumstances. I figured that if you were asking something as simple as this, you wouldn't understand what causes more amperage draw on the electrical system. I was helping and giving you ideas. TO PREVENT YOU FROM BLOWING FUSES. I wasn't being a dick or trying to act like you have no idea what you are talking about because obviously you do. True two fuses in parallel may work, but you have to remember that the wire size has to be the correct gauge in order to split the load. It would be easier just to get a larger fuse or a circuit breaker. I don't even know why you would consider something like that.

I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass at all. Why couldn't you just argue civilized instead of screaming and acting like a little girl when somebody tries to help you. Not everything you hear on a site may be correct as people have their own opinions. Get over it and don't ask a question if you are not looking for help. Thanks for your time, "Caption Obvious".

 

Wow. You come to a site and ask for help. I tried to help but I guess I couldn't. WTF damn. True a starter will draw more amps when it is about to go out but replacing a good starter with a new good one shouldn't change anything. 10 seconds to start? I thought you were saying it took that on average. If you are going to say something that make sure you mention the circumstances. I figured that if you were asking something as simple as this, you wouldn't understand what causes more amperage draw on the electrical system. I was helping and giving you ideas. TO PREVENT YOU FROM BLOWING FUSES. I wasn't being a dick or trying to act like you have no idea what you are talking about because obviously you do. True two fuses in parallel may work, but you have to remember that the wire size has to be the correct gauge in order to split the load. It would be easier just to get a larger fuse or a circuit breaker. I don't even know why you would consider something like that.

I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass at all. Why couldn't you just argue civilized instead of screaming and acting like a little girl when somebody tries to help you. Not everything you hear on a site may be correct as people have their own opinions. Get over it and don't ask a question if you are not looking for help. Thanks for your time, "Caption Obvious".

Its simple, you acted like a dick when you put your post up so I acted like a dick back. I posted on her beacuse there's alwase something I seem to forget about.

 

Its simple, you acted like a dick when you put your post up so I acted like a dick back. I posted on her beacuse there's alwase something I seem to forget about.

Ok I appoligise you thought I was acting like a dick. I honestly wasn't trying too. I never ment it to come out that way. Again I am sorry and I hope you got everything figured out. I was just trying to help and give you some ideas. Sorry bro.