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learned an rx7 about dsm

5.4K views 95 replies 26 participants last post by  neoamd  
#1 ·
Well i was going to wreslting practice this morning at 5:30am(i wreslte for university of delaware) and i see a silver rx7 tt with an exhaust up ahead. I figure i would run up on him and see if he wanted to run em. Well he did. We got out on 273 and we were trying to catch a light together....well he was but i really didnt want to, damn fwd....but we decided to do it from around 15 mph. Lets just say when we did catch a light together, he said, "Damn, what do you have in that thing." i just told him it was turbo and thats about it. O well like i said i learned him about dsm. I think he was very dissatisfied with his twin turbo mazda. I love the cars but damn i love my eclipse a little more with every kill.
 
#2 ·
I think you meant to say Wraslin' practice. :D
 
#7 ·
i'm pretty sure its a 2g since he has a greddy evolution exhaust. possibly a 16g with a stock sized flapper.
 
#8 ·
The model and year makes the most difference. Non turbo you should pretty much walk on till high speed, but turbos are fast. Even the Turbo ][ --> as the late 80's early 90's cars are slow, sure, but light weight. What did you race him up to? I've had bad experiences against some new TT Rx7's on top end...

Good kill, TT or not.

:happy:
just cause I like that smily'
 
#9 ·
it was a newer rx7 and it was tt. THey run like a 14.5 stock and all it had was an exhaust and i doubt a chip. I pulled on him and shut down around 90 and was about 2 car lengths ahead. Notice we raced from a roll so traction wasnt a problem.
 
#10 ·
xeclipsex said:
i think they have like 240 stock and without a chip they dont pull very very good times.

it was a newer rx7 and it was tt. THey run like a 14.5 stock and all it had was an exhaust and i doubt a chip. I pulled on him and shut down around 90 and was about 2 car lengths ahead. Notice we raced from a roll so traction wasnt a problem.
I drive a 93 RX7 TT. The previous onwer laid down a 13.2 @ 102mph. It was bone stock except for caback. Its called an ECU, not a chip. This is needed when you have more than 3 (3 mod rule) that deal with intake or expelliation of air.

Also remember that RWD drive cars do better from rolls and the RX7 is awesome at midrange and topend. Either you raced a bad running RX7 or you ran what you thought was one. Hell, maybe you didnt race one.. maybe its bs.. Im not going to call anything but dont doubt us. I would own any gs-t or gs-x if it was sitll on its stock turbo in street trim. We also can run mid-high 11'2 on the stock twins. Hope to have taught you something :)

Josh
 
#11 ·
how are you gonna say that i might not have raced one? Maybe it was running bad....but i def raced one. I would not come on here and make lies about races, i have more of a life then that. Also i laid down a 14.2 with my current mods and i get no traction in 1st or threw the middle of second( with and aggressive shift). Also have you heard of people not being able to drive? And how can you tell me that a rwd drive does better from a roll? Have you driven a fwd drive car before and tryed to launch it? Enough said.
 
#12 ·
xeclipsex said:
how are you gonna say that i might not have raced one? Maybe it was running bad....but i def raced one. I would not come on here and make lies about races, i have more of a life then that. Also i laid down a 14.2 with my current mods and i get no traction in 1st or threw the middle of second( with and aggressive shift). Also have you heard of people not being able to drive? And how can you tell me that a rwd drive does better from a roll? Have you driven a fwd drive car before and tryed to launch it? Enough said.
Nope, never will. I dont like FWD.. Id would only resort to AWD or stick with RWD. Maybe you should get some drag radials or learn how to launch. No offense.. with enough experience FWD laucnhes can be good.. just ask me friend dave with his trubo neon (stage 2 HRC , almost stage 3).

Like i said stock RX-7's run mid to high 13's. I do believe it was running bad. You should also have more details when you post a story like this, esp when it deals with a supercar like this one (Supras, RX-7's, and 300ZX's).

Oh they have 255hp and 217lbs of torque stock :) and only weigh 2789lbs..

Josh
 
#13 ·
eric was it one of the newer sexy looking ones or one of the older boxy ones? you know im not calling BS on you here but ive seen what mildly modded RX7 TT's can do. they come out to the race spot and a guy running a same year GST with alot more work than you have with a 16G was only about a car ahead of that 7 the whole run. alls im saying is maybe it was just the non turbo model which are still pretty quick. also they dont run a 14.5 thats with a horrid driver, the 93-95 models are rated at 255hp weigh 2700lbs and run into the 13's stock. the slightly older like late 80's-91 models are 160hp NA, and 200hp for turbo and they weigh around 3000 lbs, and are a little slower mid 14's i beleive for the turbo models.
 
#14 ·
dantheman said:
eric was it one of the newer sexy looking ones or one of the older boxy ones? you know im not calling BS on you here but ive seen what mildly modded RX7 TT's can do. they come out to the race spot and a guy running a same year GST with alot more work than you have with a 16G was only about a car ahead of that 7 the whole run. alls im saying is maybe it was just the non turbo model which are still pretty quick. also they dont run a 14.5 thats with a horrid driver, the 93-95 models are rated at 255hp weigh 2700lbs and run into the 13's stock. the slightly older like late 80's-91 models are 160hp NA, and 200hp for turbo and they weigh around 3000 lbs, and are a little slower mid 14's i beleive for the turbo models.
whoo hoo! Thanks man :) Ill give you a ride in my car just for that.. maybe you can drive her..

Josh
 
#15 ·
im pretty sure all it had done to it was an exhaust, i didnt see any gauges, or anything. It didnt sound to throaty either, i dont know much about these cars but i know that it wasnt n/a cause it hung right there with me pretty much. And im not saying that i killed it but i did beat it. Maybe it wasnt running right or maybe the guy couldnt drive but all that matters to me is that i won. O yeah and dont talk to me like im stupid im aware of the potential of the rx7. I see what times the ones around here run with sum mods, and im not saying that they are bad cars, but i do think that they are probably the one car that is more unreliable then the 4G63.
 
#17 ·
xeclipsex said:
im pretty sure all it had done to it was an exhaust, i didnt see any gauges, or anything. It didnt sound to throaty either, i dont know much about these cars but i know that it wasnt n/a cause it hung right there with me pretty much. And im not saying that i killed it but i did beat it. Maybe it wasnt running right or maybe the guy couldnt drive but all that matters to me is that i won. O yeah and dont talk to me like im stupid im aware of the potential of the rx7. I see what times the ones around here run with sum mods, and im not saying that they are bad cars, but i do think that they are probably the one car that is more unreliable then the 4G63.
These are cars you have to baby! If you treat them well, they will return the favor. I think you raced an auto. I dont even know why mazda made them. O yeah its the internet :).. I believe.. but i still thinks it and auto or it had some major problems..
 
#18 ·
eric you still didnt say wether or not it was a rounded one or a boxy one. if you could specify that people would prolly have an easier time beleiving the kill.

neoamd said:
whoo hoo! Thanks man :) Ill give you a ride in my car just for that.. maybe you can drive her..

Josh

ill take you up on that letting me drive her or hell i would love to just ride in one. ive always wanted to drive a rotary.
 
#19 · (Edited)
dantheman said:
eric you still didnt say wether or not it was a rounded one or a boxy one. if you could specify that people would prolly have an easier time beleiving the kill.
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Guys, lighten up

I dont think he is trying to pull something over us, or lie or whatnot - but I do think its possible there is a mistake on the car, if it was turbo or quite possibly the rx-7 tt was not running 100%

I for one dont know how to tell a TT rx-7 from the non turbo? Never been that close to those guys, or too interested to find out.

But I think we all agree a DSM with small mods (as you have) should not be beating a last generation RX-7 twin turbo. Key word is "should not", but there are other things that are variables: mechanical condition, crappy driver, turbo vs nonturbo

Hell, my DSM right now runs like poop (anybody want to help me in my help tech forum :D ) and I would race a friggin geo metro and probably loose right now

BTW neoamd, glad your here - always enjoy to have non-dsm guys here so we can learn about other cars as well as enjoy ours.
 
#21 ·
First of all there were no N/A 3rd gen RX-7's. They were all twin turbo. The auto cars had the same engine/turbos as the 5spd, but their boost pattern is a little different. It's most likely that the guy had a boost leak of some kind as a downpipe & catback can typically net about 40rwhp or so on a properly running 3rd gen. Bone stock I managed to get a 14.0 the very first time I ran mine @ the track. On the highway they're even better yet. I don't doubt your story at all though as there are a lot of bad running FD's out there & with their crazy ass turbo control system (76 cheap rubber vac lines under the upper intake manifold alone) they tend to be succeptable to a lot of boost issues. Good race either way. :D
 
#22 ·
There is a rich kid around here that drives a 3rd gen RX-7. Full body kit, konig verdict, 400$ wing, the works(rice at its best)..... Its an automatic and I cant wait to show him whats up. He has exhaust done and intercooler piping, but it isn't that impressive...
 
#23 ·
You say it was a silver Rx-7? Did it by any chance have a carbon fiber hood, Advan body kit, and a window banner? Was the driver asian? Because I also go to the University of Delaware and I know a guy who drives an insanely modded Twin Turbo RX-7. Here it is:

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That's my friend Jay's Twin Turbo RX-7, I don't think that is the one you raced only because I know of another Twin Turbo RX-7 that is less modded than that one. I live over in Pencader, maybe I can see your ride sometime.

-Scott
 
#25 ·
Yes a DSM is far superior to a 3rd gen Rx7 Twin Turbo :rolleyes:

Oh and a 14.5 1/4 mile .. yes how accurate actually the other day my stock 2g tsi awd ran a 12 second run

Ps ... ran a 13.9 bone stock
 
#26 ·
sab4you said:


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BTW neoamd, glad your here - always enjoy to have non-dsm guys here so we can learn about other cars as well as enjoy ours.
Thanks man.. glad to be here also :)

Veritas - i love my car! only thing is, you have to have money to keep them up.. plus its nice incase a part breaks..

Jonny Bravo - Yep, all 3rd gens were twin turboed. The autos are just horrid.. there were also 3 different models.. all of 80lbs within each other.

Weight can be dropped on an RX-7 real easy. A full exaust (downpipe, midpipe, and catback) will take off around 42lbs depending on what you replace it with. Also chaning out for new aftermartket parts will get rid of the bulky stock stock parts (intercooler and airbox).


Is anyone here near Monetgomery? Or live near or in Pensacola, Flordia? I visit P'cola all the time..

Josh