The 6 bolt engine is better. The 4 bolt rear can hold more power w/o breaking.

There were a few other diff. Brakes changed

There are a few other threads Ive seen that every change year to year. I just dont feel like going through them all.

Oh yea and the 92.5 model was the only DSM that used a 6bolt/4bolt. Good luck finding that

 

Thanks

I don't plan on really modding the car at all (has to last me 3 years and I'm broke) so I shouldn't notice the differences in either case, right?

I'm leaning toward a 93 because of the big brakes, but if I find an earlier one at the right price I will probably go with it (these things are incredibly hard to find here...I put in my old zip code from Arizona on autotrader and 5 cars I would buy pop up...0 here )

 

1Gs you really have to look for in the paper and on www.dsmtrader.com, at least maybe you could find one thats not that far away.

 

Yeah, I've checked the trader. Trying to find something reasonably close to me

Thanks again

 

Thanks

I don't plan on really modding the car at all (has to last me 3 years and I'm broke) so I shouldn't notice the differences in either case, right?

I'm leaning toward a 93 because of the big brakes, but if I find an earlier one at the right price I will probably go with it (these things are incredibly hard to find here...I put in my old zip code from Arizona on autotrader and 5 cars I would buy pop up...0 here )

Don't worry about the "big brakes." You can upgrade those for under $200 from your local autoparts store... so don't let that be a deciding factor... seriously. Especially if you aren't going to mod it much, then you won't even need the bigger breaks.

 

Yeah, if I find one for the right price I'll most like go ahead and get it, assuming its not gonna fall apart around me after I've driven it for 3 days, which would be bad. Although I dislike pop-up lights, since they always get stuck down...

 

I've had 0 problems with my pop-up lights and I have 167,xxx on the car.

If your headlights get stuck, MAYBE it was because of a previous accident and the body panels are not lined up right???

Also, if you are looking for a reliable car, I am sure that most on here will agree, DSMs are NOT reliable! :laugh: Even worse when modded.

If I were to buy a car for reliability, I would purchase a Honda

 

I bought the car I have now with about 87k on it...The thing skipped timing, but the guy who had the car before me did no maintenece on it at all so who knows what happened there. Anyway I got that fixed, its got 111k now, and its rock solid.

Anyway, I'm not buying the car for honda-type reliability (if I was I would buy a 92 or so integra; those are still the best built engines I have ever seen) I'm buying the car in hopes that it wont die for the next 3 years, which it shouldn't, if I find one with 100k or so on it. I see a lot of people (on here and in ads) who take the cars to a much higher mileage then that with proper maintenece, which I do.

'Sides, an AWD is a heck of a lot faster then a 92 integra I think that for the money you can't do much better then a DSM -- they're the cheapest cars with 4 wheel disk brakes I've ever seen

 

I've got a '90 GSX and with 148K on the engine, the compression is 150+ in all four holes. Just depends upon if the previous owner took care of the car. Some of the downsides to '90s is the weaker rear end (3 bolt), smaller breaks (easily upgradable), weaker trannies (already been through 3 of 'em), and frankly RETARDED wiring in the engine and passenger compartments. I don't blame Mitsu though. It was the first year the DSMs were around and they were still ironing out the bugs. If it were me, I'd go for ANY YEAR 1G AWD as long as it wasn't rusted and/or not taken car of. The small details and idiosynchrosies between the years can be easily remedied. Happy hunting....

 

pisces_0,

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. At this point I'm just trying to find one with reasonably low miles on it.

I'm talking to one guy about a 93 up in Boston with 95k...if thats still around next weekend when I can get up there I'm gonna make sure its in good shape and drive it home

Although I doubt it'll still be around next weekend, but hey, I can hope

 

I don't plan on really modding the car at all

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that is one plan that will change within a month of you buying the car trust me

 

that is one plan that will change within a month of you buying the car trust me

Spoken like a true DSMer!

 

Heck, I wasn't even planning on buying my 1G. Just kinda fell into my lap and I've been loving the boost ever since. If you're going to look at the car bring a few tools along. A compression tester is key. Look for large variances between the cylinders, and pray for 135 psi or more. Anything below that and a rebuild will not be far off. A socket set and screwdrivers are good too. Take off the intake snorkel and push the turbine wheel in and out. If there is any play in the shaft, the turbo is on its last leg. On the test-drive listen to and feel 2nd gear for any (excessive) crunchiness or notchiness if it's a manual. If you haven't heard of the "DSM Grind" you will soon CV axles can be tested by going in reverse in tight circles. Any clicking or rubbing sounds and they're shot. If anyone else can think of points to look for, throw 'em out. Buying the car that you've always wanted, but ending up with a lemon is never any fun (been there, done that....)

 

that is one plan that will change within a month of you buying the car trust me

Yeah, it probably would, but I don't have any money, so even it if does, I'm kinda stuck

 

'92+ also doesn't have the "donkey dick" shift knobs.

 

'92+ also doesn't have the "donkey dick" shift knobs.

Guys, sometimes you crack me up.

Some of the things listed, such as big brakes, or shift knobs is truly ridiculous!

You can get a shift knob that you like for what... $20???

Buy the car based on important decisions... like 6 bolt/7bolt motor... even the 4 bolt rear end is not important until you are making LOTS of power... which this person says he wont', so it should NOT be a factor in deciding which car to buy.

 

not the easiest finding a 1g without ANY mods, but can be done, def get the 6bolt engine, i dont have the 4 bolt rear but im living with it fine, if u find a 92 with 6bolt/4bolt ill steal it from u =D

but 90-91 the trannies r kinda rough shifting, but that can be fixed easily most of the time with a few small fixes =)

 

Guys, sometimes you crack me up.

Some of the things listed, such as big brakes, or shift knobs is truly ridiculous!

You can get a shift knob that you like for what... $20???

Buy the car based on important decisions... like 6 bolt/7bolt motor... even the 4 bolt rear end is not important until you are making LOTS of power... which this person says he wont', so it should NOT be a factor in deciding which car to buy.

I was just pointing out the diffs since that was what he asked,I wasn't being critical just informational. Take a Midol dude.

 

I'm gonna go ahead with the 93 if it checks out, only 95k and the guy is asking $300 under kbb.

 

I was just pointing out the diffs since that was what he asked,I wasn't being critical just informational. Take a Midol dude.

I know you were kidding, but I'd bet anything that a bunch of noobs would read that and go, "oh man, don't get the early model 1g, it has a banana shifter nob!"

 

here are some key differences....

try to find a 92 1g that was produced for only 4 months that year (Jan-Apr) because it had the 6bolt/4bolt combo and is the best way to go. very rare though. if you plan on launching alot you better get the 4 bolt rear or else those axels will get weak from repeated abuse. also, 93+ AWD have 2 piston calipers in the front but you could just find these a junk yard and upgrade. good luck and hope this helps. if you haven't already, check out the first edition of Modified Magazine that should still be out on newsstands as it focus on building up a dsm from scratch and uses that same 6bolt/4bolt combo i mentioned above.

 

Oh yea and the 92.5 model was the only DSM that used a 6bolt/4bolt. Good luck finding that

i've got one

 

Yeah 92.5 all the way!!! lol

 

Just to help those out there with the 3 bolt/4 bolt rear end question on their mind.

I have had ZERO problems with my 3 bolt rear end and I have plenty of launches on it... car has 167,500 miles on it!

Bottom line, unless you are making A LOT of hp, you should not NEED to upgrade to a 4 bolt rear end.

There was a post on here not long ago or maybe it was about some guy running mid 12s @ 109 or so.... he was on a 3 bolt rear end..

I know there has to be TONS of guys out there who have run 11s on 3 bolt rear ends ... although at that power level, I am not sure how long much of any of the drive line parts will hold up.

The point being, until you get to THAT level, don't worry about the rear end. :santa:

 

I had a 6bolt/4 bolt/EPROM...neener neener neener