Cool story! Congrats on the times, very impressive!

 

Thanks! It's been a long road that's for sure. I've been blessed to have a lot of great friends help out along the way.

I noticed embedding the 11.14 video didn't work so I'll try to fix that later today. I also want to make a post showing a breakdown of the weight loss and maybe one for future goals.

 

I tried to fix the embed but apparently couldn't if you can produce a good link, I'll copy and paste into your original post.

 

Any idea of what's next? You're picking away at a ten second pass on a 14b lol, love stuff like this, runs faster than most cars with twice the amount of money in them.

 

So what is next?

Short Term:
That is an excellent question. Right now I really want to get to the dragstrip once more this year. I think I can sneak through tech for a couple runs at a different track.

I know racing a car at these times/speed can be very dangerous and I'm probably an idiot for trying to get away with running this tin can without the proper safety gear. But, it doesn't make me want to go again any less.

I have an FP manifold sitting here waiting to go on the car. A buddy had it sent from FP to my house. It's for his car, but he was curious enough that he wanted me to try it to see if it is worth anything on this setup.

I think I have alot left in the tune. My AFR's are 11.2-11.4:1 on E85, and my timing runs from about 14*-18*. I think there is some power left on the table with leaning it out and adding timing. Only the track will really tell for sure.

Only real goal with another track visit this year would be to see if I can run a new best, and ultimately an 11.0X this year.

Long Term
10.X 1/4 times - Right now that is my goal with the car.
Of course once I've done that the "record" will be within a reasonable grasp (if it hasn't already been passed by someone else). So chances are I'll end up chasing the overall record too. We'll see, for now a reasonable goal seems to be running 10's with the 14b and then re-evaluating.

This winter/fall I need to collect the safety gear and get the rollbar installed. At minimum a 5-6 point chromoly w/5 point harness, driveshaft loop, and a fire jacket. A scatter shield is also required but is something they rarely check for, it seems worth the peace of mind though.

If the FP manifold works out I will probably make my own purchase of one.

There is some more weight I'd like to remove from the car to counteract the safety stuff. Lexan hatch and side windows for sure and a 1 gallon fuel cell setup.

I'd like to re-do my ram-air intake setup with actual aluminum piping and a better design. Haven't really thought of how yet.

Bushing kit, the car needs it bad!

And eventually a built bottom end, more then likely with high compression.

After 14b

An Evo III 16g

 

The Weight Loss

This is a highly debated topic. Some people will never be impressed with a gutted out car running good times on a small turbo. Some will go as far as to say a good car was ruined because it was gutted out. Some just throw a jab that they are more impressed with a street car even if it ran slower.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me anymore. If you truly want to run mid to low 11's and even dream about running 10's with the 14b your car is going to have to be light. Very light!

So what have I done to make a 90 talon that originally weighed around 3100 lbs w/out driver, weigh only 2240 lbs?

The Weight Loss List

Front and Rear Bumpers (JMFab front installed)
All Interior Plastics
Heater components (everything under dash)
Gutted stock dash
Center console
door side panels
A/C Components
Pop-up headlights, motors, etc. (driving lights installed)
All stock seats front and rear (1 Summit Racing seat installed)
Seatbelts front and rear (1 canadian belt installed)
Gutted crash beams from doors
power window motors (manuals installed)
heat shields
N/S crossmembers
miscellaneous engine brackets, air canisters, etc.
1ga 5-piece spoiler
front and rear windshield wipers and motors
Gas tank shield (honestly rusted off)
Front and rear swaybars
all interior carpeting (front thin layer for walmart installed)
Sound deadening scraped off entire interior
Sound system - speakers, radio, wiring
Cruise control assembly (non-cruise cable installed)
Radiator fans (slimline installed)
Hood (Carbon Fiber hood)
Hatch (Carbon Fiber Hatch)
Power steering
Stock battery (Odyssey PC680 installed)
Stock battery tray (small custom aluminum installed)
Wiring harness gutted of non-essentials
U-frame for rear seats
Miscellaneous spot welded brackets
E-brake assembly and cables
Weather stripping (hatch, doors, hood, etc.)
Front and Rear window sprayer assemblies
Stock wheels/tires (Slipstreams and slicks)
Stock suspension (Megan coilovers)
Brake system is small 1 piston fronts
Catback removal at track (open downpipe being ran currently)
driveshaft (3" DSS aluminum installed)

There is probably alot of other little stuff that took off a lb. here and there.

But of note to me:
Car retains all glass
Car retains stock fuel setup
All driving lights work (headlights, tails, blinkers)
Other then the doors no sheetmetal cut out
No tubular parts currently (minus rear lower control arm of course)
ACT 2600 clutch w/stock flywheel

So it can get lighter, although mostly to counteract the addition of the safety equipment.

 

Your first post should be correct now.

 

Had to share a couple of these from putting the car together with Loki!

Yes, Loki does have a dsm...or at least he did, better still be there!


Look at that sexy man

 

I expected loki to be taller?

Thanks for the rundown of weight modifications, its always a question on peoples minds, including mine.

 

Mike is an interesting character, but he's always there to help a fellow dsmer!

I probably forgot things on that list, but it's mostly complete I would say.

 

Sounds like you have a solid plan in place, like I've said in the past, will be watching for updates.

Ever thought about a little spray?

 

I'll continue to update. There's always so much more you can do to make more power and go quicker! For me it's always a budget issue on how much I can do to the car in a given season/year.

At this point I have no interest in using a baby bottle
Honestly, to me it negates the point of using a small turbo, at that point the turbo has little to do with making any power and is actually more of a restriction. Yes, on a small shot the turbo is still doing work, but what is the point of a small shot if you're going for a best time.

 

Not to spool it, I'm talking a healthy shot through the run. Shorty DTP on tuners made magic happen with a stock (yes stock) t25, stock bottom end, fwd 2g car with nitrous properly being used. Just food for thought, would be worth looking into if you really want to push it after you find the true limits.

 

So was I. I know of the T-2small Nitrous car. To me that turbo on that car had nothing to do with how it ran, in fact it probably would have been faster with the turbo out of the way since it was just creating more backpressure then the minimal amount of boost it supplied anyways.

I can respect a nitrous car, but once the bottle runs out what do you have? I'm just not into it.

 

Damn, that was a while ago. My talon hasn't moved since then either, it's just been stripped back down to a bare shell. I honestly forgot for a while that we ever had your car here. That was back when I still wrenched on these things all the time. If you ever get nostalgic about putting a shell together from a pile of parts you're welcome to lock yourself in my garage with my 90, haha.

 

dooo iiiittt loki. I'm convincing the wife to drive the beater I just got to the shootout next year while I drive the 40R 90.

 

I already have Brian's project to finish if he ever makes up his mind on what he wants! But, I always did like your shell for some reason Mike, might have to make something happen!

 

I've found some new motivation and it's time to get some work done. I wanted to add a second fan today but unfortunately I can't fit the second fan with my current LICP setup. So I put the new fan, which should be much better flowing then my old no name in. We'll see if it's enough to improve the cooling. If not I may be able to mount the old one as a pusher on the driver side.

I also mounted up the new FP Manifold a friend had sent to me to try out. I like the runner design better then the old 2g manifold, it definitely flows more with the larger runners, and it looks pretty nice in the engine bay too! I really like that the supplied gasket and the outlet are actually the same size as the ported inlet on my 7cm housing as the outlet and gasket on the 2g mani was smaller. Sorry for the crappy washed out cell pics.

I did not have a chance to drive the car, but I may get to that today.

Before:


After:

 

Nice manifold

Don't forget to put back the radiator cap. Now remove the K&N sticker ... :rofl:

 

I know! That sticker does need to go, whoever I got the 2g maf from had that on there, been to lazy to strip it off.

 

This car makes me smile! Keep up the work.

 

Thanks Chris! It was good to chat with you for a second at the shootout too. Sorry about your bad luck but I have a feeling it's going to come out even better then before now!

 

09/27/13 Track update!

Went out to Martin last night to try to learn some new things and more then likely finish up the season.

Changes to the car have been the FP manifold (on loan), new BR8ES plugs (the change to non-projected), stiffened up the suspension settings front and rear significantly, and added 1 degree of timing to the upper rpms and pulled 2% fuel across the board.

The weather was cool, 58-62* which was nice for some cooler intake temps I'm sure.

First pass the launch felt pretty weak and was with a 1.52 60'
Ran a 11.22 @ 120.42 - New mph best and broke the 120 barrier!

Second pass I tried dumping the clutch too fast and literally dumped it. Jackrabbit out of the hole, decided to let off after 3rd gear.

Third pass I knew it was the last one so I tried hard to get it closer to "right".
1.49 60' (good not great)
11.15 @ 120.87 - Backed up that 11.14 well and 2.5 mph faster then that run.

So no new best ET for the car, but at least I got some new mph out of it and learned a little bit. The stiffer suspension definitely helped, I just need to dial in my left foot more for next year.

Plans now are to get over to Force to see Tyler about slapping it on the dyno and seeing what she makes. After that I need to start figuring out the budget. I want to upgrade to V3 Link and I know I need the rollbar, 5-point, fire jacket, scattershield, and driveshaft loop. Hopefully I can get it all done before next season. I also really want to install a staging brake which should help the launches/consistency.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly disappointed, I really wanted at least an 11.0x pass to end the year, if not a 10.999. But, the season was a tremendous success for only 3 track visits. I learned a lot about the slicks, I know what is possible and what I have to work on. I gained .4 in the 1/4 over last year, and picked up 4 mph. Not bad.

 

Shane! Whats goin' on? How is everything? I just spoke to Brian the other night. He was telling me about the car. Good stuff,brother! I'm glad to see you still have it and are still having fun with it. Whats next for the car?

 

Hey! Well, technically the car has gone to the scrap heap! But, the spirit lives on. I purchased a new gsx shell with a 6 point rollbar so I can continue the quest.

The ol blue car went 11.14 last year at the shootout.

This is the new car/shell. Everything is basically the same minus new bushings, Link V3 w/speed density, the rollbar, and required safety equipment. Unfortunately I'm fighting an unknown issue. It seems to hit a rev limiter at around 6200 rpms every time, in gear or out. I've taken a break from it for the last month or two. I think it may be a grounding problem as I did go through and eliminate a lot of what I considered unneeded wiring. Might have removed the wrong wire or something.

 

Where did you get this car

 

Wow, missed this post! I got this car in Pennsylvania from one Joe Pettit

Lately I've replaced the sunroof roof skin with my old non-sunroof skin and replaced the windshield with lexan. The car should come in at under 2400 with driver this year.

 

The car should come in at under 2400 with driver this year.

Damn!

 

I didn't notice the missing spoiler, but it's identical to my old car.

Good luck this year.

 

Awesome to see you still poking around with these things after Quitter McQuitQuit of Quittown Quitania aka DSM Loki sold all his stuff.



I'm running a 14B on my 2.4L setup for break in...in this heavy ass 2G I'll just be happy breaking into the 13's.

 

That poor shell....been there forever!

Some photo's to make this thread more interesting. I have a lightweight battery that goes in the bay, other than that this is about complete.

Here's the lexan windshield, I did finish a center support.



Engine bay



And it has been dubbed the S.U.B. - for Storage Unit Built

 

And it has been dubbed the S.U.B. - for Storage Unit Built

Lol, there's nothing wrong with building a car in a storage unit!