Go get'em tiger.

 

I'm contemplating the same. I'm think a 20G maybe for me. 500-800 rpm quicker spool and not that much loose in HP. Although it's killing me going backwards. It's like trading in you modern fuel injection for a holly carb. Maybe a BB GT Garett instead?

 

If it's streetability and quick spool you want, I'll trade your 50 trim for my 13G. Hell, I'll even go straight up with ya to help you out

 

Haha.. I got him beat... Ill trade a brand new ported B16G with a flapper mod done to it for it.

 

Ugh, double post. Silly DSMtalk server problems..

 

Moved to Parts Talk.

If you want opinions on the 16G, search the Parts Review forum.

 

You don't list your mods. I'd hate to go the wrong direction myself. Consider spooling mods, smaller housing, GMAF-T, exhaust, O2, 50 shot. I'd like to find someone to build a watercooled BB 50 trim myself.

 

I have plenty of power above 3k rpm.. Nothing that reving a bit higher can't fix. I really didn't think the 16G spooled that much faster. I did recently put a T25 in my car, and if low end torque is what you want, it had lots of it.

 

I've had my 50 trim TO4E for about a year now and I want more streetablity. I want a ported and clipped big 16g, whaddya think?

I've got a .48 T3 housing sitting on my work bench with your name on it

 

I find even 60-1 perfectly streetable :dunno: . If you really think the 50 trim TO4E is too laggy and you have 0 traction now, you'll just trade the lag of the 50-trim for wheelspin and tire wear with the 16G while sacrificing top end pull and overall HP output. Is it going to make your FWD car more streetable? :dunno:

 

Seriously though, all kidding aside, how does the 50 trim work for you? When do you get full boost and what kind of times have you run with it?

 

I haven't ran mine at the track yet.. But I start to make boost at 3000rpm, by about 3800 I'm around 18psi, by 4000 I'm at 20psi or so. It easily makes boost above 3000rpm even from first gear. I've driven cars with basic bolt on mods and afc for tunning, few with 16gs, T28s, big 28, and a couple of 18gs, and none pulled like a 50 trim would on the highway on pump gas. A 60 trim I drove felt preaty similar to the way the 50 trim pulled on pump though.

I guess it can also depend if you have a 1g or 2g intake manifold, a 2g smaller intake runners and higher compression sure help with the low end torque somewhat when the car is off the boost. Also cams seemed to really have helped in the torque department at 4000rpm, where it would normally feel a little flat before, but it also reduces torque under 3k.

I don't know about you guys but when I'm driving on the street I don't need a bunch of power down low to go to the grocery store.

 

I haven't ran mine at the track yet.. But I start to make boost at 3000rpm, by about 3800 I'm around 18psi, by 4000 I'm at 20psi or so. It easily makes boost above 3000rpm even from first gear. I've driven cars with basic bolt on mods and afc for tunning, few with 16gs, T28s, big 28, and a couple of 18gs, and none pulled like a 50 trim would on the highway on pump gas. A 60 trim I drove felt preaty similar to the way the 50 trim pulled on pump though.

I guess it can also depend if you have a 1g or 2g intake manifold, a 2g smaller intake runners and higher compression sure help with the low end torque somewhat when the car is off the boost. Also cams seemed to really have helped in the torque department at 4000rpm, where it would normally feel a little flat before, but it also reduces torque under 3k.

I don't know about you guys but when I'm driving on the street I don't need a bunch of power down low to go to the grocery store.

Are you having any fuel supply problems with the 550's? I want a 50 trim but am really concerned with the injectors handling the load. Would I be okay with a 50 trim under 18 psi? If so, screw a trade! I've got cash!

 

I run 550's with my 50 trim at 21psi pump and have no fuel supply problem. I just installed MAF T and now I start to spool at 2400 rpm and by 3400 i hit 21psi.

 

I run 550's with my 50 trim at 21psi pump and have no fuel supply problem. I just installed MAF T and now I start to spool at 2400 rpm and by 3400 i hit 21psi.

Where did you get the MAF-T? How did that along improve your spool? It doesn't add up....

 

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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35397&highlight=ramchargers

 

I had a fuel suply problem. I just had a cheap B&M regualtor sitting around and turned the FP to 52psi, and everything is fine now. I'm getting 660s soon though.

 

where did you get your 50-trim from??

it looks like im going to get a 50-trim, 660injectors, FP, DSMLink, test pipe

i am also a system admin, what is it with us system admins and DSMs???

bryan

 

LOL.. Don't know. I have a DSM buddy who's also a Network admin if it counts. I got mine from a local shop. They odered it straight from Precision Turbo. It's the same T3/T4 bolt on everyone else is selling. Same thing as buschurs br500, and AGPs RS49. From what I hear you can even get these from FP if you ask them.

 

I've had my 50 trim TO4E for about a year now and I want more streetablity. I want a ported and clipped big 16g, whaddya think?

Dude, if you think a 50 trim is laggy you must have other problems. I think the 50 trim is the ultimate street turbo (along with the PTE61). Actually prolly spools at damn near the same spot as a clipped 16G on a properly running car.

 

i agree... it must be in your setup. my green spools MAYBE 400 rpm slower than my 14b did.... im in love with it..

 

do you think 750 bosch injectors are overkill for the SMC50??

i dont know if I have the head to flow that kind of fuel/air

current setup is as follows:
1998 GSX
2.5 downpipe, high flow cat, high flow 2.5 exhaust (im going to a test pipe)
ACT2600 (i know this isnt engine, but its what i got)
K&N Filter (going to make a custom 3" intake)
O2 & Manifold unported (going to port if necessary)
stock IC
Upper IC pipe & 1g BOV
boost guage
new factory mitsubishi engine 0 miles

upgrades in order

0) ordered Oil pressure guage, engine temp guage (thinking about EGT guage, auto meter doesnt make one in carbon fiber, the rest of my guages are carbon fiber!)
1) 95 ECU/DSMLink
2) FUEL Pump, FPR
3) Injectors (please advise on injectors)
4) MBC
5) SMC 50


Bryan

 

You should be fine with 660s. No need for such big injectors.

 

I run 550's with my 50 trim at 21psi pump and have no fuel supply problem. I just installed MAF T and now I start to spool at 2400 rpm and by 3400 i hit 21psi.

Which method are you using? draw through or blow through?

 

do you think 750 bosch injectors are overkill for the SMC50??

i dont know if I have the head to flow that kind of fuel/air

current setup is as follows:
1998 GSX
2.5 downpipe, high flow cat, high flow 2.5 exhaust (im going to a test pipe)
ACT2600 (i know this isnt engine, but its what i got)
K&N Filter (going to make a custom 3" intake)
O2 & Manifold unported (going to port if necessary)
stock IC
Upper IC pipe & 1g BOV
boost guage
new factory mitsubishi engine 0 miles

upgrades in order

0) ordered Oil pressure guage, engine temp guage (thinking about EGT guage, auto meter doesnt make one in carbon fiber, the rest of my guages are carbon fiber!)
1) 95 ECU/DSMLink
2) FUEL Pump, FPR
3) Injectors (please advise on injectors)
4) MBC
5) SMC 50
Bryan

I hope a good sized FMIC is in your list too