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DSM Loki said:
Jack's trans. is a joke...

Anyways, NLTS is about the worst thing you can do to a transmission.

The impactive torque load is what breaks shit, as the force applied is equal to the maximum torque holding capacity of the clutch, no matter how much the engine is producing.
Explain yourself on both accounts.
 
jack doesn't have the cnc machine to properly do some of the shit he sells, like the 4 spider diff. it's a miracle none have come apart.

other than that, he tries to talk about how shep and rip are so secretive about everything they use, ask either one as many questions as you need to, they'll gladly answer all of them.



as far as shock loading being the worst thing you can do to a tranny, not only was that explained in my previous post, it's common fucking sense.
 
DSM Loki said:
jack doesn't have the cnc machine to properly do some of the shit he sells, like the 4 spider diff. it's a miracle none have come apart.

other than that, he tries to talk about how shep and rip are so secretive about everything they use, ask either one as many questions as you need to, they'll gladly answer all of them.



as far as shock loading being the worst thing you can do to a tranny, not only was that explained in my previous post, it's common fucking sense.
O Snap!
 
Im planning on a shep trans for me next year. TRE look real nice but shep...you know its gonna be good.
 
White91TalonTsi said:
Im planning on a shep trans for me next year. TRE look real nice but shep...you know its gonna be good.

I don't understand where the misconception comes from that it wouldn't be good if it doesn't come from shep...

You do realize that TRE's been doing it longer, right?
 
Some guy said:
My coworker's aunt's neighbor - you know, the one with the first-cousin (once-removed) who owns the shop? Well he has a shop car that his surrogate mother drives, and it has a TRE tranny, and she says it's the best.
Another dude said:
Yeah? Well my buddy has a friend who knows a guy who runs 10's all the time, and he said he's gone through 5 Shep trannies, and 5 TRE trannies, and they all lasted for the same exact amount of time, with the same exact mods on every pass he made, but he said the Shep trans worked better because of the CNC hot flux tank job they do with the special internet coupon.
That other person said:
My secret lover's husband works at Burger King. A customer came through once is a really cool-looking DSM. He was saying that he runs 9s all day on a Shep Stage 99. I trust him. He ordered chicken tenders, btw.
This is worse than the soda vs. pop debate. :p
 
DSM Loki said:
Jack's trans. is a joke...

Anyways, NLTS is about the worst thing you can do to a transmission.
That's odd because my jack tranny has taken many, many NLTS, and many 6k studder/antilag launches and it's still running fine... I think you are the joke because you have no first hand experience.
 
DSM Loki said:
That post was mildly entertaining, however, I know it couldn't possibly be meant to refer to me at all.
You're correct - it wasn't meant to refer to anyone specifically. But in generalist terms, we've all been apart of some sort of a, "friend of a friend" discussion. The post is a caricature of itself, hoping to evoke entertainment to break up the monotony of the thread. There is an exact opposite of almost every post on every internet forum (I'm sure there's a philosophical yin-yang undertone to that). For every person that says Jack's trans are superior, there is an equal post saying Jack's trans are terrible.
 
Burnett03 said:
That's odd because my jack tranny has taken many, many NLTS, and many 6k studder/antilag launches and it's still running fine... I think you are the joke because you have no first hand experience.

When did I say that the trans wouldn't hold it? I merely stated a fact, shock loading is what breaks drivetrain components.

And you're right, my TRE def. hasn't withstood any abuse at all, I bought it because the bead-blasted case was pretty.:wall:

This is my last post in this thread because it's gotten to the point of people being biased because of what they have, not the research they've done.
 
I think both rebuilds are great, and a little bit of detailing wont make that much of a diffrence at all. I think there both equally good and will last as long as you let them...IE, break them in properly, and shift accordingly and change your oil on time!
 
Anyone else who doesn't have the knowledge to rebuild a transmission, much less the knowledge to state which is better then the other want to pipe up? There's a lot that have so far, so I'm just checking....

I've rebuilt transmissions starting back in 1998. I've also rebuilt several of both Jon and John's transmissions (and I'll state forthright that none of them were incorrectly built--just a matter of older rebuilds that needed to be refreshed). I've also sold parts to a lot of the rebuilders out there over the years.

I could sit here and play favorites between the two (or play "Jack's Transmissions" and try to tell you that their's suck--Mine's best.) but I honestly wouldn't say "One is better then the other" after seeing both. Both are well built transmissions, and will serve the purchaser well. If having it beadblasted so that it looks nice for 1000 miles in the car, go for it. But sitting here saying "One "owns" the other" is BS at best.

Go ahead and base it on "Timmy Racer from down the block has ran XX.XX on one of XYZ's Transmissions" if you want, but if that were proof, then people who have ran that fast on stock transmissions a couple of times would indicate that stockers are best if you use the same logic, no??
 
DSM Loki said:
When did I say that the trans wouldn't hold it? I merely stated a fact, shock loading is what breaks drivetrain components.

And you're right, my TRE def. hasn't withstood any abuse at all, I bought it because the bead-blasted case was pretty.:wall:

This is my last post in this thread because it's gotten to the point of people being biased because of what they have, not the research they've done.
You said jack tranny's suck. But you never stated why, and any reason you had.. Probably because you didnt have any.. I'm glad this is your last post on the thread, i'm sure it's because i called you out on your BS.
 
Burnett03 said:
You said jack tranny's suck. But you never stated why, and any reason you had.. Probably because you didnt have any.. I'm glad this is your last post on the thread, i'm sure it's because i called you out on your BS.
Fuck this. I was done.

Calling me out on BS? No reason?


If you had read my posts, I stated MORE THAN ONCE that he doesn't have a CNC, yet he does the 4 spider diff.

If you knew anything at all about building a trans, you would shut the fuck up right there.
 
DSM Loki said:
Jack's trans. is a joke...

Anyways, NLTS is about the worst thing you can do to a transmission.

The impactive torque load is what breaks shit, as the force applied is equal to the maximum torque holding capacity of the clutch, no matter how much the engine is producing.




True, otherwise it'd be a broken, stock tranny, lol

16g-95GSX said:
Explain yourself on both accounts.
I would appreciate a real explination as well. Your BS about us not having/using CNC equipment is false. We have NEVER had a 4-spider break and there are a lot of 600+ hp cars running my trans. It sounds to me like you have some other issue with us or something. I don't see why you have to attack us like that when you know nothing about us. Please explain, I would really like to hear it :)

It's amazing I guess how our POS units are able to withstand launch after launch on twin disk clutches and NLTS and never break ain't it? Tell you what, just to piss you off, I will offer the guy that started this thread an 8 month 'no questions asked' warranty on my premium tranny. If he breaks it, for whatever reason, I will replace it for free. ...but he never will break it, because nobody ever does.

As far as best goes, and have seen complaints about everyone. It just comes down to who you are comfortable with. I am on many forums and help a lot of people on the web. I just signed on to DSMtalk, and will be posting around here helping out too. If you buy one of my trannies, you can talk to me here, on the phone or email. I like posting in the forums, so you will see a lot more of me :)

Thanks too those that said nice things about us above. I really appreciate it! You guys are awesome!

Jack
 
DSM Loki said:
Fuck this. I was done.

Calling me out on BS? No reason?


If you had read my posts, I stated MORE THAN ONCE that he doesn't have a CNC, yet he does the 4 spider diff.

If you knew anything at all about building a trans, you would shut the fuck up right there.
Nice post, I would REALLY appreciate to know why you believe it is necessary to say the false things you are saying about us. It already appears you have anger issues, but I would like to know more.

Jack
 
DSM Loki said:
If you knew anything at all about building a trans, you would shut the fuck up right there.
And you are the tranny building expert? I might not now how to build a tranny but i know my jack built tranny just withstood 2 antilag/studderbox launches tonight with no problems. And has ran 10's on other cars.. I also know i have abused the fuck out of this transmission at times and it's still fine. Now tell me, do you have any first hand experience with his tranny's, or are you just still talking out your ass?
 
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