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What is the Dif between the eClutchmasters and a Clutchmasters Clutch?

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#1 ·
What is and how good is an eClutchMasters Clutch? Any relation to a Clutch Masters? Some people have said that these clutchs actually use an ACt PP?

ANy and all Info on the eClutchmasters will be appreciated.
 
#4 ·
I looked at that eclutchmasters site a while back. Their "product photo" looked like a photoshopped picture of an ACT street disc. Had some photoshopped "speed holes" on the spring hub and that was it. That would be their only relation to ACT.

No relation to Clutch Masters either, they just ripped the name off. Their damn name makes no sense anyway... eClutchMasters? Selling electronic clutches? (Don't they know that the lowercase "e" is a pop culture abbreviation for "electronic"...)

Also interesting to note that www.eclutchmasters.com has been down for about a month. Searching for "eclutchmasters" on google returned a whopping 2 results, and neither was a company website (results were a review on www.dsmreviews.com, and a mention in passing on a Legend forum). I also tried alternate spacing ("eclutch masters") and got 0 results.

If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say "eclutchmasters" doesn't exist anymore, so good luck buying an e-clutch from them.
 
#5 ·
No relationship between the two companies, like everyone said, just a ripped off name.

As far as their clutches go, I have an eClutchmaster's stage 2 disk and stage 1 (2000lb) pressure plate. With the exception of the chatter (common with puck disks) I love this clutch. I cannot say enough about how much abuse it has taken, and never shown any signs of failure or stress. The clutch cost me $330 shipped, and I think it'll handle atleast as much, if not more, horse power and abuse, then other more well known clutches will handle.

Not flaming anyone, but unlike the people who have replied, I actually have first hand experience with this clutch, and recommend it.
 
#6 ·
Nice to know that it works.. but I'm not sure if that even matters since it looks like the company no longer exists. Web-based company loses website... you do the math! :D

Also, keep in mind that any halfway decent clutch will work on a FWD. I have an ACT 2100 on my car... the tires break loose well before the clutch would have a chance to start slipping (tires are 235-45-17 Falken FK-451). I don't know how much power you're making with your car, but FWD DSMs are kinda easy on clutches. If my car were AWD, the 2100 would have been toast a long time ago (but it's not, so I buy tires instead of clutches).
 
#7 ·
James, I have the eClutchmaster stage 2. From the look at the PP, it does look like ACT PP. Ask John, he was surprised I told him it's not ACT. Anyway, the 6 pucks disc chatters too much and suck for daily driven. It does hold very well tho. The 6 puck was recently swap out to organic street disc. Just for the record, I paid $300 shipped brand new, cannot resist :).

Anyway, no point finding a product that no longer exist.
 
#9 ·
The eCluctchmaster's puck disk will take much more abuse then an ACT with a street disk. I went with this clutch because it is a sprung puck disk, ACT's 6 puck is a solid disk. I was hoping the springs would make it more streetable then the ACT 6 puck. I've personally witnessed two ACT 2600's with street disks turn into kitty hair well before their time. I've seen 3 McLeod's gernade the springs. My eClutchmaster's clutch has held up for almost a year of abuse now, at similar power levels.
 
#10 ·
http://www.eclutchmaster.com/main/main.html
Still in business. Pulled up no problem. I plan to go with one of these in a month or two (trying to nurse my slipping stocker through Christmas season). They offer same/better performance as ACT 2600, but with a lighter pressure plate. I am hoping to not have to weld the pedal assembly in my 1G. :D

To you guys running these - should I not go for the 6-puck sprung disk? My car is a daily driver. I really am not concerned with noise, vibration, etc. - just performance.
 
#11 ·
Well, it really depends on the person. If you're the type that will remove your AC, cruise control, balence shafts, etc all for performance, then a 6 puck won't bother you at all. I'm the type that wants the car to have as much performace as possible, without sacrificing it's ability to be driven daily. That being said, I think the 6 puck is a little harsh, but tolerable... especially when you consider the performance it offers. For me, I reve the car up to about 2200-2500 rpm, and start to slip the clutch, as soon as I feel it grabbing, I slip it in a quick smooth motion, and it seems to work fine. It's much more grabby then a street disk, but tolerable in my opinion. I've used this clutch since January with no problems. So, bottom line, I think it's streetable. some may not.
 
#12 ·
I will get mine soon, just wanted some info, I got mine for $320 shipped and didn't want an ACT 2600 PP on my 2G crank, otherwise I would have bought the 2600.

Can you park easy with the 6 puck? can I trick my car into a slow manuver?
 
#13 ·
umiami80 said:
I will get mine soon, just wanted some info, I got mine for $320 shipped and didn't want an ACT 2600 PP on my 2G crank, otherwise I would have bought the 2600.

Can you park easy with the 6 puck? can I trick my car into a slow manuver?
Did you get it directly from them, or off eBay?
 
#15 ·
Of Ebay for $305 but it is 15 for shipping so it is $320.


Remember this is a 2500, I trhink it'll kick ass with a Fidanza flywheel and 5000 RPM launches.
 
#17 ·
The box and advertisement state 2500 pounds.

although eClutchmasters has a yellow PP mine is orange for some reason and is indeed a 2500 pound one, this I copied from the ad I bought.

eClutchmaster's Stage 2 clutch 2500lbs pressure plate six puck
90-98 Eclipse Talon 2.0 Turbo

Does fit other aplications, But I'm not sure which ones, It will fit some non-turbo's

eClutchmasters claims that this clutch will hold upto 450 horses. I've read several reviews on this clutch and I haven't heard anyone dislike it. This auction will include the 2500 lbs pressure plate, six-puck racing disk, a stage two throw-out bearing, and a clutch allignment tool.

This item is brand new. I purchased this from eClutchmasters on Ebay intending to build a 12 second Talon Tsi, however, I don't have the time or money to finnish it. So I'm selling this clutch along with a ton of other stuff for the 1g's.

I will except PayPal and Money Orders only. Winning Bidder WILL pay full shipping costs via UPS ground. I will not overcharge like some jerks on Ebay.

I'm a high quality Ebay seller and buyer and expect the same from the people I do business with. DO NOT BID if you aren't going to pay, I will post negative feedback for deadbeat bidders and I'll contact Ebay. I will expect payment within 10 days after the close of auction, prefferabley sooner. Also, If you have more than a couple of negative feedbacks then you need to contact me before bidding. It will be my discretion whether or not to let you bid.

Please feel free to email me with any question's you may plish4lfe@charter.net Reserve=$250.00

eClutchMasters is a trademark of eClutchmasters.


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#18 ·
I see. They must have changed it then. I couldn't find the e-mail (I must have deleted it), but I got one back directly from eClutchmaster saying it was a 2230lb plate, that they round it to 2300. Either way, it seems to be a very good product. As you stated, I have read several reviews with nothing but good things to say about it.
 
#19 ·
Side note, but plish4life@charter.net is a good guy.. I've dealt with him recently (bought my DIS-2 and a set of wires from him).

And I was wrong about their web site not existing. I was trying eclutchmasters.com when their name is eclutchmaster (no S at the end). Doh.
 
#20 ·
Wow? You know Phishfor life? He is good, but sent me a nasty threatening email when he thought I diped on him. He apologised and is getting my clutch out shortly. That is good to know.
 
#21 ·
fakes

ok for the record if nobody knows anything about clutches,i purchased the eclutchmasters set 6 puck sprung there stage two pressure plate is a factory plate i mean literaly goe to advance and lok at the stock pressure plate it is the exact same one manufactured byt dk...just painted yellow to grab the eye of little defenseless rice kids..ok beside the whole pressure plate scam...the throw out bearing that comes with the kit is worthless toss it.and use a factory throw out bearing..this kit cost me a trans be cause of the chatter..the bearing seized on me...causeing the tob to slam into my pressure plate warping the fingers and eating the plate melted to the shaft the tob rides on and ripped it off..i now need new trans...the positive is the disk it grabs beautifuly with the exception of the occasional chatter i love this disk...after a new trans i now use a stock pressure plate with a mitsu tob and the six puck plate...i love this set up...so my suggestion to anyone is if you want a stock feel with a lot of grip use a stock plate just order a six puck disc and always use the factory tob..unless you need something as strong as a 2600 pnd pressure plate but unless you are pushing 350+ hp a stock 2000 pnd plate is sufficent....any question feel free to pm me
 
#23 ·
no im sure it is a stock plate

first off look at the differences in plates act centerfore...etc. eclutchmasters..all the other plates have thicker diaphrams and 3-4 straps..eclutchmasters 2, stock two straps same diaphrame thickness as stock and on top of all i was looking at the two plates and noticed a emblem looks like =dk= stamped on stock, peeled the eclutchmasters ''sticker'' off the plate and low and behold...=dk= was stamped on the plate so i have the exact same clutch as what came out of the car to start with only painted pretty yellow..if you know that thicker diaphram and the extra straps are what give a 2600 pnd plate its holding capacity not trying to argue but i work for a reputable speed shop in my area.''enhanced performance'' and we all agree it is a stock pressure plate..althought it is not the plate that matters it is the disc the 6 puck sprung disc is freakin awsome,i love the disc..my only complaint is if you offer a stage 2 pressure plate ''i.e 2600 pnd plate'' at least let it be a 2600 pnd plate'' sorry if you think im trying to prove you wrong i just dont see it as being a stage 2 clutch kit more like stage 1 1/2...:D
 
#24 ·
I cannot speak for the one you received, but I know that the one I got was definitely not stock. It looks almost identical to an ACT plate. This is the same thing reported by other board members here as well. In addition, the plate gives quite a bit heavier pedal pressure than stock (according to ECM, it is a 2230lb plate that they round up to 2300 in their ads). I am not disputing your experience - just telling you mine. If they have started shipping stock plates with their kits, then that does suck.

No worries man. We are having an intelligent discussion. It is not like you were flaming anyone or anything. :D
 
#25 ·
sorry

well i just finished putting everything back together,starts driving fine take it up and down the road a little bit and seems fine then i can hear the disk engage the plate evry time i shift then its starts screeching then the peddle drops to the floor it wont disengage,the whole car starts shaking it, i cant stop luckily i make it back to the shop, but not before i have to use the ebrake to help stall it before crashing so i get mad jump out of the car slam my door and my window shatters f$#@ im even more mad.. i kick it while hopping up and down and put a nice (but fixable dent in rear quater) smoke is pooring out of the trans. i think im fubar..only thing i can think of is the flywheel was cut wrong and warped.oh well back up on the lift she goes...i love my car:D
 
#26 ·
I can tell you my pressure plate was not a stock piece. I know ACT reuses OEM clutch disks to make their street disk, maybe some companies use stock pressure plates and rebuild them to their specs too?

Just to let everyone know, I now have about 25,000 miles on this clutch (stage 2 sprung 6 puck clutch and stage 1 2000lb pressure plate) with no problems so far. I did use their throw out bearing and have no problems at all so far, but it is a metal sleeved piece, so your results may vary. But in my case this clutch has worked out perfectly. My car now has a 20G, DSMLink, Magnus intake manifold all installed, and I have 264/272's sitting on my kitchen table... so I should be able to make somewhat decent power soon, we'll see how the clutch holds up then.