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Okay guys. Here it is…the FAQ for the 4g37 to 4g63t swap. It may be a little sketchy but I don’t have that much time. Also I release myself from any liability for anything that may be wrong.

I had an entire running parts car that I used for a donor. I wished I just left the parts car as is but the 1.8 had a fresh paint job and a lot of body work put into it. Well you live and you learn. The 1.8 was a 91 and the TSi was a 90. There were a lot of differences in the electrical layout. In order to keep the wiring clean we swapped all the wiring.

First of all you need to pull the engine out of both vehicles. Make sure you keep the engine mounts out of the turbo. They are thicker and will stabilize the heavier motor better. I just bought some new ones since the donor was so old. Make sure you label all the vacuum lines or you will get lost. To make things simple just get the vacuum hose removal vfaq from www.taboospeedshop.com

Have your donor engine rebuilt or better yet get a built one. I got crapped on my rebuild and the piston rings blew. I am going through court matters to fix that situation. Here comes the bulk of the swap. The wiring is completely different from the 91 to 90. That may not be the case for newer models. I cannot verify so check into that. The ECU has to be swapped out. You will need an ECU for the same model and year to keep things simple. The wiring from the turbo engine to the ECU was quite simple except that it started branching out to the dash and rear of the car BEFORE the ECU. At first we thought that would be no problem but for some odd reason the wiring connectors were all different. Hence the reason we ended up changing entirely every wire in the car. Swapping out the wiring wasn’t too bad as long as you take the time and have enough patience to do so. It all goes back to carefully remembering where what goes. As with any standard engine swap or rebuild, it is highly recommended that most of the external engine parts like the core, alternator, water and oil pumps are all replaced with new ones. Also any relays that any wiring goes to that is not on the original car must be swapped. We spent 2 whole days trying to crank the car to find out that the relay that controls the ignition and fuel was missing.

Next is the intercooler. The 1.8 has a huge plastic canister under the fender but the intercooler is a direct bolt-on. All the bolt holes and location are in the same place. The only thing that was not was the oil cooler which was simply welded on the correct spot. So to finish up everything is simply plug and play. All bolts are there and all. Even the tranny dropped in like it should. As long as you have decent motor (unlike me) and all the wiring you should be good to go. Also I can’t verify the wiring issue with 91-94 models. This is for a 91 to 90 swap.
 
Hey man whats up, im doing this swap, i have a 92 6 bolt being rebuilt at the moment...the only question i have is are the mounts the same or what, im not to sure, and it is a b**** taking the dash out, im just unscrewing everything i see...lol help me out man!
 
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The mounts are the same and bolt right in. The dash is a pain and sometimes it is better to remove the steering wheel when removing it. Get a Haynes and it will show you all the places to remove screws. Also I forgot to mention that you may want to remove the AC lines in the engine compartment when putting the motor back in. The tranny is a little bigger and wanted to be a pain going in but once you angle it right it will slide right in. I pinched and busted my AC lines in the process.
 
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Okay here goes a final list. I am going to be a thorough as I can be.

First of all I would recommend going with a 91-94 but the 6 bolts are preferable. You will need:

Turbo ECU
Turbo wiring harness
turbo tranny (NT tranny will work but I constant blew them....my turbo one is holding great)
Low impedance thingy for injectors(it sits on the firewall in the middle has 4 wires going into it)
coil pack and transistor FOR THAT YEAR MODEL ECU(90 or 91-94)
Turbo head with all sensors like CAS, etc
turbo block or NT 4g63 block
turbo thermostat housing
turbo manifolds (exhaust and intake)
turbo intake piping
turbo MAF
turbo itself (duh)
turbo downpipe
intercooler and IC piping
preferably external oil cooler from a 90
90 oil filter housing preferable
if you get 91-94 stuff then oil cooler isn't needed
turbo motor mounts (they are a little tougher)
bov

Recommended to rebuild freshly and replace all the parts with Mitsu stuff or better. Search for rebuild info to see what all that includes (fresh sensors like knock and all is a must)

if you are going from a 90 to 91-94 tranny you will need the shifter assembly swapped....go to vfaq.com to see why

I would recommend to try to stay with the same year and model for all the parts as much as possible. This swap isn't that bad if you have all the stuff and you have to pull the 1.8 engine anyways for whatever reason. As always if you ever have any questions I will be more than glad to help. Happy boosting.

Mods---sticky?
 
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Kinda easy but very very tedious and time consuming. Key is to be patient.
 
The tranny is a little bigger and wanted to be a pain going in but once you angle it right it will slide right in. I pinched and busted my AC lines in the process
I thought they were the same with different internals? I mean doesn't the 1.8 tranny even bolt up to the 4g63t??
 
im currently saving to find a wrecked 1g turbo to do this to... no sense wasting a good turbo body... bu ti was just wondering... is it possible to eventually make it a gsx... any help would be awesome

takerEz
wade
 
swade said:
im currently saving to find a wrecked 1g turbo to do this to... no sense wasting a good turbo body... bu ti was just wondering... is it possible to eventually make it a gsx... any help would be awesome

takerEz
wade

wow... i dont remember posting this.. and to answer my own question... not without alot of fabrication, money and time... lol haha

swade
 
swade said:
wow... i dont remember posting this.. and to answer my own question... not without alot of fabrication, money and time... lol haha

swade
I actually searched through some of my posts on another forum the other day...I used to be such a dumbass...

"I have a 1.8 with an automatic...how hard is it to:

-swap in a 4g63t?
-do an auto-->manual swap

I am just starting on the tunerz scene...what should my first mods be? Who makes HEADERZ for the 1.8?" Because I definitely need two of them, my motor is special. :rolleyes:
 
ok listen the motor mounts are all the same swap the harnes swap the get the shifters from a donore car. and everything that goes with the clutch, an while you have the dash of install the clutch pedal. and everything that goes with it.

then just put the motor/ tranny in blead your new clutch . finish wireing, install ecu

start your new ride
 
headers swap the danm motor. YOUR GOING TO TAKE THE LIGHTES OF THE DSM'S AND PUT A BIGGER MORE POWERFUL MOTOR WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR
 
yeah dude, that stuff is essential, unless you plan on rigging a bunch of bicycle brake lines and erector set pieces, that I'd say that would be smart. Just messing with ya dude, yeah, but make sure they are the right year linkage..do a search...theres a ton of info about the linkage situation.
 
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