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Hey guys, You can get a 95 ecu as low as $125 plus shipping at http://www.car-part.com Just serach for "engine computer" and it will give you a list of junkyads that have it available, just call the junkyard and ask if the ecu sticker has a letter E at the bottom right of the sticker( http://www.dsmlink.com/faq-eprom.html ), if it does, it's an EPROM. JUST DON'T TELL THEM WHAT AN EPROM IS OR THEY WILL START TO RAISE THEIR PRICES!!! Tell them you need the ecu with the E because your car has an "Eletronic sunroof" or something... SeeYa. :cool:
 
The "E" in the part number stands for Eprom. An EProm is a chip that pops into the circuit board. The chip has all the software hardwired into it. They're only on early 95s since DSM needed to revise the code and test things out. This way they can make changed to the code as they sell the cars and come up with problems. Once they were satisfied with the code they switched to where the software was hardcoded into the circuit board.

TMO and DSMlink sell you a recordable chip with their modified code on it. You pop out the factory burnt chip and plug in their recorded chip and now your car is running their software. If theres no EProm, theres no chip to replace. You have to replace the ECU board with a board they had made. The new board has to have all the connectors and heatsinks and stuff that the origional board had so you can plug it into your car. That could be grossly expensive, even if you could find all those custom connectors and stuff that DSM had made for their ECUs, which you probably couldnt. Thats a LOT more expensive (if even possible) than popping a 25 cent chip into a chip recorder and flashing their program on it.
 
I under stand the whole eprom technology but vw tuners have had the knowledge for some time about how to reprogram ecus that have no eprom. Send in the whole ecu and they send u a new one. I geuss there just isnt that many people trying to break the codes on these dsm cars or something. I mean these cars are still using mechanical boost control,this isnt nasa technology right?
 
Just put mine in today. Still have the stock injectors and fuel pump (hopefully have that 'fixed' in a few days to a week or so), so I didn't do any tuning. I gotta say it's pretty cool so far though. The car is running just like stock--which is how it should be, datalogging is really easy, it's the easiest install I've ever done (except maybe for the catch can), and I got to see--unfortunately--the cool feature where the check engine light flashes if a certain amount of knock is recorded. Thankfully that only happened once, and it was while driving over a bumpy section of road.

The Palm version still isn't out, but some teasers of it have been released. I'd imagine it'll still be a few weeks to a month or more based on what I've seen and heard. Oh, and in case people were unaware of this, the Palm software is going to be free.

Without even having had the chance to really use the product extensively, I'd already give it two thumbs up.
 
For those that were wondering what a stutterbox launch is, go to TMO.com. Look around and you will find videos of it. Lets just say on the run in my sig I put in the clutch, floored the gas pedal, and I had a solid 5500 rpm and 15 psi boost when the light turned green :) Did a 1.7 on all season radials on a 30 something degree night. One of the best mods I have done yet. The DSMlonk will be coming soon too as soon as the palm version is out ;)
 
So basically the palm version of dsmlink will be this same great program but instead of using a labtop i would be able to use a palm pilot?? Also would it still have all the same features and would it still be easy to use as the labtop version??
 
I'm sure it will have all of the laptop features, we'll just have to see how much memory we need to log things. Obviosuly a laptop has a bigger storage space (hard drive). But if the files are small it wont be a big deal. I imagine it will be just as easy to use. Its a pretty comprehensive system but at the same time its so simple. There arent a whole lot of adjustments. Most of the work is done inside the ECU, behind the scenes...
 
I have an important question, i've read all the material on DSMLink and would like to know....

After you fine tune it to where you want do you have to have the labtop continuously hooked up to run those saved settings, or just use the labtop when datalgging and changing or re-booting things, once there saved????

I really wouldn't like the idea of having a labtop in my front seat open and on, sliding all over the place when driving to work and such. Pretty big distraction..
 
Not all the time...

You only need the laptop in the car when you are tuning or logging. The ecu saves the settings. You can also save the settings on the laptop and load them when you need them. Say you have a street setup and a track setup. I love mine and have about 3 friends that enjoy it also. They all came from AFCs.
 
I just downloaded the whole program from dsmlink.com and messed around with it.

I think I may have spooged.

This thing does everything I ever wanted. Incredible. Timing & Fuel adjustment, and most importantly, a great datalogger! From the test logs, it looks like it can log over 6 different parameters at 20 samples per second. That's 6x20=120 samples per second! I'm used to my crappy OBD-II logger straining for 10 samples per second, TOTAL.

And it shows KNOCK & TIMING RETARD! Man, that makes things sooo simple to tune. I was afraid of tuning with pump gas with the AFC, but this thing will turn my car into a street BEAST!

This thing is so superior to anything out there, I'm amazed. I'm going to sell my AFC for 250 bucks, buy this for 470, and it'll be like getting an ITC + real datalogger for 220 bucks!

I'll have to rip out my TMO Stage 3, but oh well. Todd Day could have done this (he has the brains) *years* ago, but he didn't, so, DSMLink, here I come.

I know I sound kind of enthusiastic, but I've literally been *dreaming* of something like this... ever since I saw the nice dataloggers the 1G guys have, and the high EGTs on my 2G from the *crappy* timing.

Thanks for the reviews, I'll be joining you guys soon!
 
DId anyone else notice that software was written in _JAVA_ and the source is downloadable??? I'm going to start trying to get a working copy on linux. That would save a bunch of money on the laptop purchase if it works.
 
How long roughly does it take to get the eeprom back?

I just got my 95 ECU *GIDDY*
 
secongendsm said:
I actually had mine (socketed) locally. A guy I knew did electronics for a living and has all the tools to do it.

I heard turn around time isn't to bad when you send it to them (Dsmlink).
Their turn-around time is fantastic. I believe it took about 10 days total from when I shipped it until the time I got it back. That includes the time it took to ship it from Minnesota to Maryland and back plus a weekend in between.

I don't know that I've ever seen better product support either. They have a Yahoo groups message board for DSMLink owners and really do an amazing job making sure everyone understands how to use the product. Plus they keep coming out with additional features for DSMLink (which are all free as part of the software you download), and other great things such as a very nice tuning guide.
 
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