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FP rewire question

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#1 ·
Okay I'm about to do the fuel pump rewire. My question is this:


DO I have to cut the stock ground wire to the FP like in the VFAQ version?

I belive I just have to ground the relay right? The FP can stay grounded by it stock wire from the harness right?


Rob
 
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#2 ·
fu98765 said:
Okay I'm about to do the fuel pump rewire. My question is this:


DO I have to cut the stock ground wire to the FP like in the VFAQ version?

I belive I just have to ground the relay right? The FP can stay grounded by it stock wire from the harness right?


Rob
I don't know how close the fp ground point is, but to rewire the hot and leave the stock ground wouldn't make a performance difference from the mod. Just tap a new grond on top of the old ground wire, don't cut the factory ground.
 
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Re: Re: FP rewire question

95tsiawdgst said:

Just tap a new grond on top of the old ground wire, don't cut the factory ground.

What do you mean? :dunno:


Rob
 
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#5 ·
i used 10ga wire on the relay(i know its overkill..)including my new ground, which was at the relay. As StlDave said, it defeats the purpose. its like using a 4ga power wire, and a 10ga ground for a stereo. you can only get out what you put in...


Deep
 
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#7 ·
anyone have some good directions on how to do this.
did a search for it and got the one for the 90 fwd and it has the link for the awd, but it seems pretty vage to me, need some detailed with better pics information.

also does it matter between the spdt or the spst?
whats the diff?
 
#8 ·
I'm sure you have already searched the vfaq right.


www.vfaq.com


*sigh* 1G guys.:rolleyes:


Rob
 
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#9 ·
Rob,

I just came across this thread. Didn't you say a fuel pump rewire is ghetto and that you'd never do it? *sigh* I guess everybody learns eventually. :rolleyes: Hopefully you learn from your mistakes here and next time you won't smart off to people who know far more than you. I know there are a lot of people that know far more than me, but rather than tell them they're wrong, or that they're doing "ghetto" mods, I take their advice. I've managed 109.9 traps and a 12.485 on a Big28--right up near the top of the list for T28-based turbos. How fast has your attitude taken you? Break through 90 mph traps yet?

I'll reference another one of your tirades, just so nobody feels I'm picking on you unjustly--because believe me, you deserve this. http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=69268

Mark
 
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#11 ·
you guys are gay.

whoever knows the rewire works, use it (i do).
if you disagree with the 'rewire' theory, dont use it.

you guys are talking to someone that has their mind set.
Its like trying to tell a VW owner that Honda Rules. He has chosen his ways, so let it be. You guys look like a bunch of 10 year olds.

if he doesnt wanna do it, leave him alone. thats his problem, not anyone else's.

this post was not direct to one individual. i am merely stating the obvious.
 
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#12 ·
v8_kllr said:
you guys are gay.

whoever knows the rewire works, use it (i do).
if you disagree with the 'rewire' theory, dont use it.

you guys are talking to someone that has their mind set.
Its like trying to tell a VW owner that Honda Rules. He has chosen his ways, so let it be. You guys look like a bunch of 10 year olds.

if he doesnt wanna do it, leave him alone. thats his problem, not anyone else's.

this post was not direct to one individual. i am merely stating the obvious.
The "obvious" apparently escapes you. fu98765 said in the past he would never do it. Now, he starts this thread saying he is just about to do it. He has wronged many long-term members of this website, many of whom are among the faster guys here. I just enjoyed pointing this out to him. If he's going to talk trash, he better be able to back it up a few months down the road rather than switching 180 degrees and being a hypocrite. In other words, you entirely missed what's "obvious" here.

It may seem like a cheap shot to you (or something a 10 year old would do), but as you can see from all the referenced threads, this is long overdue. If someone keeps yappin' away, eventually they'll get called on it.
 
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#15 ·
LOL I'm getting crap from the guy with a 95' Copper DSM and gay ass rims. Thanks again.;)

Some of you people really hold a grudge. Damn. Sorry if I have "wronged senior members" who I would expect to have more maturity than myself.

The only reason I'm doing the rewire is because I found a kit that is super high quality in which to do it. Also I am cheap and I want my car to be more safe with my 14B without a lot of work.


Yes I was wrong about the fuel pump rewire. I am a hippocrate in that sense. Here is your medal sir. fusion_ta66 maybe you should think more about what you say next time. You didn't have to all out insult me with potty mouth and stuff. Hor you handled the situation well. I was wrong about the FP rewire and you caught me on it. Good for you.


The Supra IC is still Ghetto as hell. Anything that requires frames cutting and crazy ass couplings and stuff is Ghetto. Besides, why do people do it? It is cheap. I WILL NEVER DO IT! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER. Good for you if you have it. Call me when it starts to sag and the frame rusts.:p

Thanks for bringing a thread from 2 months ago back to life. I have yet to do my rewire though. No time yet. Too cold.



Rob

P.S. I'll get those finger paintings right out for ya. :rolleyes:
 
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#17 ·
Yeah I can tell by the way you go from thread to thread starting shit with me. Who is the more immature?

I'd just jump at the chance to get an older, uglier, and quite possibly slower car than mine. I'm done.

Rob
 
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#18 ·
from everything ive read about fuel pump rewire, its more because the stock wire is thin and fluctuates voltage due to being so long and thin. You are not really trying to mak teh whole thing bigger so it can flow more current, just be stable. So keeping the stock grounding wire really shouldnt matter.
 
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#19 ·
Well from what the guy said up above, both of the wires provide a lot of resistance.


This is what I plan to do:

Splice a huge remote ground wire into the stock ground wire close to the FP connector, solder it, and cover it with electrical tape.


I think on the VFAQ there is only two wires comming off his connector, but my friend's (haven't looked at mine yet) has like three or four. Am I correct that the power wire is the blue one with the white stripes and the larger black wire is the ground?

Rob
 
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#20 ·
well when i rewired my 2g, i dont remember exactly what part it was, but there was a part that u splice into that goes into the harness and that short length of wire is stock size

but i dont really think the rewire is so you can flow more current through the wire, it really is big enough for plenty of current, it is the fact that the voltage fluctuates on the long thin power wire. Long thin wires collect interference, its the same for running network wire and power wire, the thickness is plenty for the current, but because the distance and size of the wire it gets alot of interference

that is my impression after reading through countless threads a long while back
 
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#21 ·
Nice 'high-quality' rewire kit you bought. Doesn't even come with directions! Even a chimpanzee with Down's syndrome could follow the VFAQ.

As I stated in the other thread, your opinions and thoughts are completely invalid and worthless, you may stop professing them.

There's your banana, Coco.
 
#22 ·
fu98765 said:
Yeah I can tell by the way you go from thread to thread starting shit with me. Who is the more immature?

I'd just jump at the chance to get an older, uglier, and quite possibly slower car than mine. I'm done.

Rob
If pointing out the fact that you're a hypocritical, ignorant disgrace to the DSM community constitutes immaturity, then just call me a 2-year old. Hope all those words weren't too big for you. I'm done. zzzz
 
#23 · (Edited)
It came with directions.;) I just want to clarify. I like to plan things out before I do them.


fusion_ta66 you're a dick, plan and simple.


When I do my FP rewire I'll take some pics of it so you can see how I did it compaired to the VFAQ. I'll take some pics of my kit here in a few and post them as well.


Rob
 
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#24 ·
loreak said:
well when i rewired my 2g, i dont remember exactly what part it was, but there was a part that u splice into that goes into the harness and that short length of wire is stock size

but i dont really think the rewire is so you can flow more current through the wire, it really is big enough for plenty of current, it is the fact that the voltage fluctuates on the long thin power wire. Long thin wires collect interference, its the same for running network wire and power wire, the thickness is plenty for the current, but because the distance and size of the wire it gets alot of interference

that is my impression after reading through countless threads a long while back
I am not saying I know everything but I do have a degree in electronic engineering and make a living from it.
I can't remember the formulas right now but voltage and amperage are proportional to each other-when you drop voltage, you also drop current.
Say you have a fixed load of 2 ohms and apply 12, you get 6 amps, turn up the voltage to 15 and you would get 7.5 amps etc.

Doesn't even come with directions! Even a chimpanzee with Down's syndrome could follow the VFAQ.
You guys are pretty funny:D
 
#25 ·
sorry guys. i've been doing that alot lately (speaking 10 years after the topic is closed).
im gonna start going to bed earlier. its getting bad.
sorry for being such a jackass:D
 
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#26 ·
It's funny cuz i got all the things needed for the re-wire 8 months ago when my car was still in the shop, and i still haven't done it yet haha

I have a question.... i'm still on my t-25 with bpu mods, and i spike up to 22psi at times and drops back down to 16-17psi. I've only hit fuel cut once, other times everything is ok. Wouldn't re-wiring my fuel pump make my car slower since it makes the car run richer?

All i know is my car was slower after i installed a B&M fpr when i first bought the car. So i would imagine that making my car even richer by re-wiring my pump would be overkill, and make it run slower. Am i right?

Oh.... i actually attempted to do it, but i couldn't find a hole to run the wire through the firewall. Did you guys drill a hole or is there a hole?
 
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