You probably should have takne the TB off would of probably been easier too..

Try a telescoping magnet maybe..

 

High powered shop vac might work too. Just tape the tube of the vac to the TB to seal it up good and turn it on.

 

To get everything out of there, you will have to remove the intake manifold. And then use compressed air to blow all the shavings out of the manifold. Do it the right way, most of the time half-assed shortcuts don't work.

 

i would take the intake manifold off, y risk messin up ur engine?, takin off the manifold isnt that hard

 

oops, i ment to say i ported out my intake manifold, i did have the throttle body out. I used a shop vac but tiny tiny shaving (like dust) are still sticken to the walls. I cant use a magnet cause their aluminum shavings. What will happen if i tried to start it. Will it mess the pistons up or how would I know if it did anything to the engine?

 

I told you to use compressed air in my first post...

 

i read that! now im asking what would happen if the shavings are in the engine. Boom, Bang, a piston gone, etc....

 

I doubt any engine damage would happen if you started your car, but if it was my car I would take off the manifold. As long as they are very very small it should not hurt anything.

 

Ya they are very small, i used a sand paper type tool on the dremil.

 

i read that! now im asking what would happen if the shavings are in the engine. Boom, Bang, a piston gone, etc....

You could do the right thing and remove the manifold and clean it out properly, or you could fire it up, cross your fingers, and then hope that you don't need to learn how to pull the motor.

 

Those little pieces will definetly go right into the engine as soon as you fire it up, and from there they will go out through your turbo and destroy it as well. In all honesty, any type of porting work done to the intake system should always be done off of the car. Same goes for any exhaust manifold work done before the turbo. The only thing you could safely port while on the car would be the o2 housing, and good luck doing that without getting shavings all in your face. As for the magnet idea, the manifold is aluminum and that cannot be picked up with a magnet. Also, the bits from the sandpaper tool you used are in there too and they tend to cling to things until 18psi of boost blow them off and thru your turbo. You might as well hold your car wide open and throw sand at the intake with no air filter on it. If it was my car, I'd pull the manifold just in case, it's not worth destroying your car.

 

You jsut definatly just pull the manifold. I just had to put a motor in mine and it wasn't cheap...Now since the mechanic was lazy i have to replace the turbo because he didn't make sure everything was out of the manifold from the last motor. SAVE YOURSELF MONEY AND TAKE THE MANIFOLD OFF!

 

i read that! now im asking what would happen if the shavings are in the engine. Boom, Bang, a piston gone, etc....

Remember when you were a kid and you went sliding down the water splash? Imagine someone had sprinkled sand or glass on the slide just before you slid down? What do you think would have happened to your back or ass after sliding down that stuff? Same thing with those shavings on the cylinder walls and what they will do to your piston skirts and rings.

Some of those shavings will end up in your engine oil and will pretty much go anywhere where your oil flows in your engine including your turbo.

 

What is harder? The ALUMINUM that you shaved off the intake or the IRON that your rings and cylinder walls are composed of?

News flash. Soft things can not scratch hard things.

Clean it out best you can and fire that sumbitch up.

 

What is harder? The ALUMINUM that you shaved off the intake or the IRON that your rings and cylinder walls are composed of?

News flash. Soft things can not scratch hard things.

Clean it out best you can and fire that sumbitch up.

then how do they cut diamond?

what those shavings are gonna do is sit on the cylinder walls. as the rings and piston go up, they are gonna scrape the side of the wall all to hell. dont half-ass it; be smart.

 

then how do they cut diamond?

I believe you would be refering to aluminum oxide. Intake manifolds are not made of aluminum oxide.

IMO, I would pull the intake and clean it out throughly. You could argue back and forth all day about whether it would hurt your engine but the only way you can be sure it wont is to pull the manifold.

 

I believe you would be refering to aluminum oxide. Intake manifolds are not made of aluminum oxide.

I think he was trying to say that a less hard material can still scratch a more hard material. A sharp piece of AL with scratch iron, the AL will get way more worn down, but in the case of an engine even a little scratch can cause problems when it is repeated 1000 times, on the cylinder wall.

 

Thanks for all the info...well i know i should pull the manifold but i dont have much time now, i was gonna rebuild my engine soon so i guess if anything happens it happens and ill take care of it when i do a rebuild. I have another question though, i put the TPS in and tried awhile to get it positioned and it just did not seem right, so I put it in the same spot it was in on my old throttle body. when i got in my car i noticed on my S-AFC that when i pushed the throttle all the way down it only read 95% so I adjusted the TPS until the SAFC said 100% and when let off 0%. What im asking is if I could use the SAFC as a tool to adjust it? Thanks

 

I've been building race engines in cars and motorcycles for many years and you'll be amazed what kind of damage an ALUMINUM piston can do to a STEEL or even NICKEL PLATED cylinder sleeve. It's not always a case of how hard the metal is.

 

You probably should have takne the TB off would of probably been easier too..

Try a telescoping magnet maybe..

Aluminum magnet

 

What is harder? The ALUMINUM that you shaved off the intake or the IRON that your rings and cylinder walls are composed of?

News flash. Soft things can not scratch hard things.

Hmmmm...really?

I've been building race engines in cars and motorcycles for many years and you'll be amazed what kind of damage an ALUMINUM piston can do to a STEEL or even NICKEL PLATED cylinder sleeve. It's not always a case of how hard the metal is.

 

I think he was trying to say that a less hard material can still scratch a more hard material. A sharp piece of AL with scratch iron, the AL will get way more worn down, but in the case of an engine even a little scratch can cause problems when it is repeated 1000 times, on the cylinder wall.

yes, thats what i was saying. i guess the internet doesnt convey witty comments very well

 

Usually the damage is caused not by the aluminum pistons but by the iron rings from having ring end gap too small or getting cracked from detonation.

I, too have seen galled up bores from aluminum pistons, but once they are honed, the aluminum goes away.

Back OT. Soft materials do not scratch hard materials. Saying things like you can cut steel with aluminum is just retarded.

 

Back OT. Soft materials do not scratch hard materials. Saying things like you can cut steel with aluminum is just retarded.

then tell me: how DO you cut diamond?

 

For the love of God, pulling the intake takes 45 mintes. Pull if off clean it out and be done with it.

And OW GTI, tell me how a brass iron brush powered by a drill (which travels at less speed then a piston) can scuff an iron block?