[B16ASays]

I guess no matter how hard some of us tried, certain individuals here will always think that their car is more superior, best value, "I'm da MAN!", etc. I leanred to deal with it. As for you, TOMTSI (whatever it is), I'm pretty sure the day will come. The more cockier you are, the more embarrassing it will be.


I don't think that my car is the bomb, although I'm very satisfy with it. One thing for certain though, I will never say that "your" car will never be as fast as mine. No matter how fast my car is, there is always cars that is faster than mine. Deal with it, TOMTSI...

 

[TomsTSI]

I guess no matter how hard some of us tried, certain individuals here will always think that their car is more superior, best value, "I'm da MAN!", etc. I leanred to deal with it. As for you, TOMTSI (whatever it is), I'm pretty sure the day will come. The more cockier you are, the more embarrassing it will be.

Of course I think my car is superior....I'm a DSMer for christ's sake. If I thought a honda was superior I buy one. This is a DSM board, you came in here and ran your mouth. I didn't go the the cool clubsi site and shoot my mouth off.

I don't think that my car is the bomb, although I'm very satisfy with it. One thing for certain though, I will never say that "your" car will never be as fast as mine. No matter how fast my car is, there is always cars that is faster than mine. Deal with it, TOMTSI...

I never said above statement so don't use quote's. And no shit, there's many, many, cars that can beat me.

I stated that "I" thought "IMO" that the "DSM was a better bang for the buck." Is it??, of course it is! Don't even argure that point. Will my day come??? Of course it will, no matter how fast you are theirs always some faster. The Jesus on the skateboard was a joke.....even an another honda guy laughed at it. I have respect for the fast honda's, like the N/A 12 sec. honda above and like Corprals above. He seems to understand his car pretty good and made it a very respectible steet car. I don't have respect for a honda kid that has a couple of bolt ons and doesn't even know about a Ls/vtec swap """"the most common swap"""" and runs a soild 16@85. If you want to really learn about our cars, how come you only post in the "Kill Section" of our board, your not going to learn anything here except the fact were all A-hole's, huh??. If you really wanted to learn why wouldn't post in the tech. section? You came on this board, you talked shit, you said sorry, and now we have to be nice to you...F- that. Later,
Tom

 

[Doric]

Honda does have 'the most':
Fastest FWD - both N/A and turbo.

Hey now, don't forget us here. We're rising up the ranks. Especially when Project X runs an 11 off the juice this season...

 

[OneWheelWonder]

Please add constructive information to the discussion.

-Peter

[Edited by Peter 92TSI on 02-26-2001 at 11:15 AM]

 

[MoBoost]

Honda does have 'the most':
Fastest FWD - both N/A and turbo.

Hey now, don't forget us here. We're rising up the ranks. Especially when Project X runs an 11 off the juice this season...

Man, you'll need to do something to that thing ... how do you call it ... tranny(why did they have to do make it so weak ???) to get into 8s... and that's where FWD honda is

 

[B16ASays]

I had to dig this post up just to defend myself, AND reply.

TomsTSI,

If I think DSM is superior I would buy one too. Seeing how I didn't, obviously I don't see the superior side of it. I realize some ex-Honda owner traded their Honda and bought a DSM. However, I know some ex-DSM owner traded their DSM and bought a Honda. I am definitely not going to argue which is best for the buck. How much was a NEW Eclipse GSX anyway?

Go right ahead to ClubSi and trash talk. I welcome you there. See if you would use your eyes instead of rolling them around, shut up, listen and read. Maybe you would know that I didn't come here and trash talk. I only read the kill stories because it gives me info on which vehicles you guys have beaten. Why would I need to go to the tech. section? Numbers are meaningless unless one can apply to it. Probably the best info is personal experiences.

Please don't pretend you know about the aftermarket on a Honda. No one can ever proof that the LS head and Vtec block is the most popular swap. People I know here consider the 1.8L Vtec the most popular. Plus, I don't need to know about the LS head and Vtec block swap, because I don't need to consider that.

If you can't take my post like other DSMers, you need to take it easy. I could careless if you respect me or not, because why would I? One more thing, did I say I ran 16s? Now you're the one that makes thing up. WTF was that suppose to mean? Oh I know that I'm as fast as you or any turbo Talon/Eclipse right now. I will swallow that fact and take it like a man. Unlike someone here running around complaining about no Honda can touch him. If you think like that (obviously you are), I sure have no respect for you. We shall talk again...

 

[MoBoost]

I agree with most that you say ... I mean it is your opinion
But hey, I don't know anyone switching from Turbo DSM to a Honda ... maybe 1.8l or 420A ... but not 4G63 ppl .... (well, except for very few crankwalk victims, maybe).

Take it easy!

 

[dsm93talon]

95% of the hondas I race, I beat (estimated figures of course) And that's on a N/A almost stock 4G63 auto.

just my .02

 

[B16ASays]

Well I have no problem with DSM beating the majority of the Honda. Most Honda vehicles aren't fast to begin with, and even the faster ones are so well-tuned that it is hard to get more power out of it. With a GS-T/GSX, a few bolt-ons such as K&N fliter, full exhaust (2.5), upper i/c pipe with new blow-off valve, somekind of boost controller, maybe a in-tank fuel pump, and you guys are well off into the 13s.

I only get annoyed with people say more than needed to. If you beat another vehicle, great, post the stories and I enjoy reading it even if its a Honda. You don't have to trash it to the ground. Its like, okay you beat a turbocharged GS-R by 4th gear, great thanks for sharing that exciting story. But is it necessary to add things like, "those Honda will never learn, or I don't waste gas them because the outcome will always be the same."

 

[TheHondaKiller]

I'm really getting sick of people coming on the board to declare their sick of the bias. The bias exists... It's called vehicle prejudice... and here's a good example:
I was out at the "import street races" about last summer with my 93 AWD, I was sporting an exhaust, air filter, clutch, 17" wheels and running 18psi of boost (I have way more mods now. We had been watching lightly modded Honda's face off against each other for several races when I'm approached by a guy who ask's me to run Jason, the local import street racing champ. I was a bit nervous, but figured what the hell. Jason has a late 90's GS-R with a Jackson racing supercharger and just about every other bolt on you can think of, and some you can't. All I knew was he had defeated my 235fwhp turbo probe and I wasn't going to let him beat my talon. We lined up and the starter lowered his hands and I was sleeping, I finally left the line and lurched past him in 1st, I started pulling on him through second and as I rapped out third I was about 3 cars in front of him. When I pulled back into the lot everyone was staring at me as I was the new import street racing champ (back then 13's was fast) and one of my friends heard a bunch of honda boys talking trash, specifically saying "piece of shit talon". They still had no respect even though their 13 sec supercharged GS-R went down. I now pretty much only race with the v8 guys, since their slowest cars are in the 15's and fastest can run 11's in street trim. I have been racking up some kills with them but it's a lot more challanging, a lot more competitive. And I've you've seen the crap people think is fast where I live you'd get real sick of hearing people brag about honda's. There's gutted tin cans that barely run 14's!! My buddy's old 89 turbo probe that ran 15.3 @ 92mph could take down 2/3 of the crap they raced, I really have no patience for 16sec BS. And for the guy with the civic you prolly don't even run 14's yet your somehow an expert on telling everyone else how it is. What a crock of shit. Please spare us this dilluted point of view...

 

[NJC]

How fast?

How fast can an ITR/GSR be?-NOT VERY!!!!heheheheheheh!
EAT'N CHEVYS, SHIT'N FORDS, WIPE'N WITH HONDAS! Just thought of that. Sounds like a good sticker for my rear bumper!

 

[B16ASays]

TheHondaKiller,

So you're sick of people being sick of bias, and yet you seem like one of them. Your sick of yourself is what you're saying? Let me get this straight, I show no intention of being an expert and I'm far from that, and just because I'm not as fast as most of you, I can't express my opinion? What is this? Only under 13s can speak? You're sick of people bragging about their Honda, yet at the same time, I'm sick of people trashing Honda. I learned to accept that fact, because everything seems to even out after all.

You guys know what? I think many of you would be a lot happier if I don't post anymore. I think I learned what I needed to know. This will be my last post.

P.S. Dude, it is only cars we're talking about, not your dick...don't fuckin' get all sensitive about it.

 

[Viprklr]

B16A

Stick around. It's always good to have a representative from the "Other Side"

 

[Peter 92TSI]

B16ASays-

Ok maybe I can give you an outside opinion/ view on why some of the things that are said, were said. First off lets keep the insults/ swearing to a mature level. I don't know where you usually browse, but we do not tolerate that type of behavior. That goes for everyone. Debates are good, but they need to be well mannered. Besides why waste your time hurling insults, when you can pick up a tip to beat the competition.


I must start out by saying this. The reason I feel that most people say phrases like "Why waste gas on a honda" or "I just ripped open a honda" is because as follows.

Most hondas you see on the road are some base model, or even SI or GSR riding about 1 inch off the ground that have the usual arsenal of mods, clear outs, hyper brights, exhaust (usually only muffler), and the person behind the wheel thinks they have the fastest thing on four wheels. You know, we have all seen it.

And after beating such a cocky driver by several buslengths it is just a normal manner to make a comment to put that "ricer" in his place.

See you don't exactly fit the profile of the driver above. You are actually trying to make your car fast. Some many not agree it is the best platfrom, but regardless it is due respect. Any time someone is interested in making their car faster, and has a cool and learning attitude about it, they will earn my respect. So please stay and contribute to our board.

And about the DSM comments. Sheesh. I have the same thing at school/ streets.. My car is called a POS by the honda owners, simply because it is much faster dollar per dollar than theirs. Jealousy- yes. Anger- yes. Frustration- Major yes.


Peter

 

[TheHondaKiller]

As if any of us would care if you talked about are appendages. But, while you may be sick of people raggin on Honda, the majority of the people who represent this group are who has earned it's reputation; 16 sec, tall winged, 6" tipped, riced-out trash talkers. And while judging all CARS by the stereotype that the majority of the owners have helped create is unfair it is also somewhat unavoidable. But I will say this, I do respect Hondas, some of them. I am quite confident that there is ones that could beat me, just as someone else could beat them. But as an underdog in the opposition's forum I would tred lightly instead of making bold claims, it tends to stir uprisings. If you want to learn about DSM's stay on the list, if you just wanted to try to talk to earn respect for Honda's you'd better leave, the only way to earn respect for Honda's is to learn about all of the imports (DSM's) to really understand what your car is capable of and how it compares.

 

[NJC]

I agree

I agree! Most people that drive hondas are ricers with slow cars that talk a lot of shit! That's why so many people, including my self, rag on hondas. I tired of all of the shit heads bolting slicks on their civics just to break into the 14s! Sure, there will always be someone faster, but fast hondas are the exception, not the rule. As long as you understand this, you should have no probs. I thinf you should stick around even if you are one of the aforementioned ricers! We are all here for the love of cars and the love for the sport.

 

[ecoli]

This a DSM specific msg board, what do you expect? Not all Hondas are slow, there are obviously many fast ones in the Quick 8 class, and some fast turboed street driven Hondas also. Its just glaringly obvious at the Import days at the local track that there are a lot of slow Hondas. If you computed the average time of the Hondas at the track, it would probably be about 16, while the average time of the DSMs would be about mid 13s. They usually do a sort of bracketed heads up racing here on the imports days, where the cars are broken down into 1/2 second brackets. Lets just say the 15.5-16.0 bracket takes up quite a few lanes.

 

[91TalonTSi]

Posts

Nicely handled Peter

As for the honda guy, Personaly I like the B18 in the GSR, I think it has nice potential and I love the sounds of VTEC HOWEVER, If your looking at getting much respect around here, You barking up the wrong tree my friend. Theres just been TOO MANY "ricers" out there.
Me for one, You have my respect because of the fact that I respect all that have the intention of making a 12 second car out of a yougo ( no pun intended for hondas ).

I say stick around, just dont expect much more than your getting from some pepole.

later
Neal

 

[Roach]

http://www.gamefiber.com/misc/clips

get that top left video and your questions will be answered. BTW, thats me with the six

 

[Endless]

This may piss some people off but here goes. If you happen to meet up with a properly tuned turbo GSR on the highway most of you guys are fukked. I just bought I GSX because I want to see what I can do with a mitsu and some bad ass all wheel drive action. but, My last car who I sold to a GSX owner was an 11.33 @ 126 daily driven GSR that makes 469 hp to the wheels ...tuned at alamo autosprts by me and bryce and the guys actully respecred that honda. On the highway if the mitsu guys I raced didnt have a Garrett set up they didnt have a chance....once I got some traction...above 60 it was all over. The guys with the garrett setups were way more well equiped and could keep up every now and then. Dont get me wrong I bought this GSX because I know that I can make it faster than my integra and maynot have to spend $12000 to get it there.... thats the major drawback to hondas....turbo kits = expensive and make the cars faster but only very very high 12's or mostly low 13's and you just spent about 3k-4k for the kit. then there is building a solid block so you can run more than 10psi thats about 4500 bones right there and then there is the tuning time which cost me 1100 bones to get the damn motec dialed in . I cant dog some of the honda guys because I was one and it takes a shitload more effort to make them fast and keep them together than it does a mitsu.... except for the tranny's ......

please dont kill me....