[91Bluebird]

You say you get uncomfortable runnin at 80 mph for any length of time. That's kind of anal... Hell, it,s 382 miles from my house, to where my son lives.I drive my GST there on a regular basis. (Couple times a month) When I hit the Interstate, the cruise control never comes below 80 mph, and were talking a 6 hour drive. It doesn't run hot, and I do this on 1 1/2 tanks of gas...

These cars have No-Problem running hard, and 3800 rpm's for them is not remotely stressful...

Your '97 GST has a lock-up TQ so at 80 mph you're not running 3500 rpm you're running closer to 3100 which I'd have no problem running all day long either.

On a 100,000+ mi motor without a logger or gauges I wouldn't be that comfortable runnnig a steady 3500 rpm/80 mph but that's just me. I guess part of it has to do with how fast that gas gauge drops at a steady 3500 rpm and on long trips I like to baby the engine a bit anyways.

I guess everybody has their own ideas on what is hard on a car and what is not. On the one extreme is the guy who only drives his car like grandma and on the other is the guy who beats the crap out of it constantly but most of us no doubt fall somewhere in between those extremes as we all have our own subjective opinions on what it means to drive the car hard versus abusing it and most of us will wind up driving so accordingly.

 

[Arctic_GST]

My GST is a 5 spd, my 96 talon is an Auto... But regardless 3100 rpm's on a 100k mi. motor is nothing... People take 100k motors to 400+ hp every day, with NO INTERNAL MODS whatsoever... DSM's are not quite the POS's you seen to think... They love to rev!!!

But hey, It's all cool... I just like to drive faster than you do...

Don't Sweat the Small Shit!!! And 3100 rpm's on a 100k DSM, is VERY SMALL SHIT!!!

Have a Nice Day!!!

 

[91Bluebird]

My GST is a 5 spd, my 96 talon is an Auto... But regardless 3100 rpm's on a 100k mi. motor is nothing... People take 100k motors to 400+ hp every day, with NO INTERNAL MODS whatsoever... DSM's are not quite the POS's you seen to think... They love to rev!!!

WHOA THERE BUDDY!! READ BEFORE SPOUTING OFF

I did not say DSM's are POS's and I've been driving them for over 10 years now!

I SAID I have no problem driving 3100 rpm all day long. I said driving long distances at 3500 rpm makes me a little uncomfortable and I said I don't see the purpose AND wouldn't drive at 4300 or 4500 rpms going down the highway.

You are correct in that they do love to rev and I've made 100's of 1/8-1/4 mi runs going to redline on a stock high mileage motor. At the same time though I don't feel the need to do stupid shit like drive 60+ mph in 3rd gear but hey if you want to do that then go right ahead!

But hey, It's all cool... I just like to drive faster than you do...


Don't Sweat the Small Shit!!! And 3100 rpm's on a 100k DSM, is VERY SMALL SHIT!!!

Have a Nice Day!!!

Drivng faster!? The discussion is about RPMS not MPH. Do you even know the difference?


BTW, stop pm'ing me asking "WHAT MODS DO YOU HAVE". Mods have nothing to do with engine spped.

Have a Nice Day!!

 

[Arctic_GST]

Wow!!! Three things come to mind, Anal, Insecure, PARANOID!!!

Easy there buddy, don't blow a gasket.

As for Speed vs RPM's? Show me a car where RPM's do not increase with MPH... Or is that concept a little deep for such a feeble mind???

Sorry OP, don't mean to be hoarding your thread, just trying to get a point across to the little "BlueBirdie" everywhere I go and post, he follows and makes uneducated comments, that usually don't relate to the thread...

Sorry guys, Have a Great Day, and good Luck...

 

[RE's 97 gs-t]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[91Bluebird]

Wow!!! Three things come to mind, Anal, Insecure, PARANOID!!!

Easy there buddy, don't blow a gasket.

Sorry OP, don't mean to be hoarding your thread, just trying to get a point across to the little "BlueBirdie" everywhere I go and post, he follows and makes uneducated comments, that usually don't relate to the thread...

LMAO!!! I'm following you everywhere you go and making uneducated comments?? Who's paranoid and insecure

 

[RE's 97 gs-t]

Both of your girls quit your shit and get back on subject even if this subject is a little retarded.

 

[cgomez120]

Okay so I want to install a MOMO Automatic Shift Knob into my 98 GS. Seeing as how that knob does not have an overdrive switch should I just cut the O/D wire and connect the two wires together somewhere under the shift panel to always keep overdrive on?

 

[rhinop21]

I made a thread that shows how I installed a shift nob, but at least you searched and found this one. Yes all you have to do is cut the THREE wires not TWO. Make sure you keep the organized and know which one is which. Just connect the wires and relocate. As for the shift nob you will need to have a button to push down on to move freely in and out of gears.

 

[cgomez120]

What do you mean keep them organized and know which one is which? Should they be connected in a certain manner b/c it appears that you just want me to connect them all together? The MOMO Automatic Shift knob appears to have a shifter button or am I mistaken? Anyone own(ed) the MOMO Automatic shift knob or can reccommend another automatic shifter? I chose that one b/c I intend on installing a double-din in-dash pioneer LCD screen. The MOMO shifter is shorter than the stock and looks easier to shift than the stock.

http://www.momousa.com/detail.php?category=6&group=48&product=87

Thank you for the information and quick response.

 

[Broken]

The concept of gears.

Overdrive - Wikipedia.

 

[rhinop21]

What do you mean keep them organized and know which one is which? Should they be connected in a certain manner b/c it appears that you just want me to connect them all together? The MOMO Automatic Shift knob appears to have a shifter button or am I mistaken? Anyone own(ed) the MOMO Automatic shift knob or can reccommend another automatic shifter? I chose that one b/c I intend on installing a double-din in-dash pioneer LCD screen. The MOMO shifter is shorter than the stock and looks easier to shift than the stock.

http://www.momousa.com/detail.php?category=6&group=48&product=87

Thank you for the information and quick response.

That shifter looks fine. What I mean is when you cut the three wires make sure when you reconnect them with the right wire. I can't remember off the top of my head but i think there is a red a yellow and black? Just make sure you reconnect each wire to the corresponding color.

 

[cgomez120]

Ok so took the overdrive switch apart and there are three wires(yellow, red and black). When I touch yellow to red the O/D Off light in the dash lights up. When I touch any of the other wires together nothing lights up like O/D on. Does anyone know what wire should be connected to what so I can always have overdrive on?

 

[91Bluebird]

Ok so took the overdrive switch apart and there are three wires(yellow, red and black). When I touch yellow to red the O/D Off light in the dash lights up. When I touch any of the other wires together nothing lights up like O/D on. Does anyone know what wire should be connected to what so I can always have overdrive on?

There isn't a dash light for 'OD ON'. Are you sure you're not going into overdrive/4th gear? What are your rpms at when going 60 mph because that will tell you without a doubt whether your trans is going into 4th/od gear or not. Button in means you should be going into OD. If you've been driving around in 3rd gear at hghway speeds I really feel sorry for your motor, trans, and fuel mileage.

 

[flawlessTSI]

My car turns 3500 rpm at 80 mph and I only feel comfortable driving it like that for a few miles at a time before bringing the rpms down to what I'd consider a more reasonable range. At those rpms my gas gauge sinks like a stone anyways and after 5 mi or so I would basically want to cry as the fuel disapears at a terrible rate. AND I'd NEVER continuuously run my car or any car at 4300 rpm UNLESS I was looking to prematurely end its life so I really don't get what the point of doing that is. I wouldn't even have to look at the tach to know that the engine is turning too fast, i'd haer and feel it and intuitively know that its too fast and would want to shift to 4th. If my 4th gear wasn't working I would maybe drive 3500 rpm but even then I'd be uncomfortable doing so. If you're talking about a brand new car then maybe those high rpms are ok but I bought my 91 TSI in '97 with 67,000 mi so it was far from brand new and I wasn't looking to drive it with the attitude "yeah well the motor can take it", perhaps, perhaps not. My thinking was 1) it's a DSM 2) an older DSM 3) engine rebuilds are not cheap and require a lot of down time 4) don't need the headaches.

Why would anyone want to cruise down the highway in 3rd gear anyway? If I was cruising at 50-55mph and wanted to get in 3rd gear for a wot run I just click the od button or throttle shift depending on mood.

i drove 800 miles to colorado and back without overdrive i went about 75 to 80 mph, the rpm's were at 4000 the whole way i onely filled up 3 times each way thats like 260 miles per tank which is good for a dsm. and my car had over 200k on the origional engine with 300 hp. with these cars its all about matnence whith that these engins can handle abuse.

 

[91Bluebird]

i drove 800 miles to colorado and back without overdrive i went about 75 to 80 mph, the rpm's were at 4000 the whole way i onely filled up 3 times each way thats like 260 miles per tank which is good for a dsm. and my car had over 200k on the origional engine with 300 hp. with these cars its all about matnence whith that these engins can handle abuse.

Your car WITH od is turning 3800 rpm @ 80 mph so in 3rd gear it would of been more like 4500 or better. Your mpg was indeed terrible though at only 16 to the gallon lmao. Personally I wouldn't put a car through abuse like that unnecessarily. Can it hold uo to it? Well I don't doubt what you're saying is true but driving 4000+ rpms for hours on end is something I wouldn't do in my own car. Actually I'm cracking up right now just imagining going down the interstate with the engine screaming over 4000 rpm and gas gauge sinking rediculously fast WTF were you thinking? If I had a long trip to make and was missing top gear I'd at leaet take it easy instead of trying to make good time lol.

 

[dsmraver]

Okay so I want to install a MOMO Automatic Shift Knob into my 98 GS. Seeing as how that knob does not have an overdrive switch should I just cut the O/D wire and connect the two wires together somewhere under the shift panel to always keep overdrive on?

Take a look at the switch, and figure out which wires connect for OD ON/OD OFF, and wire them to a toggle switch.

Problem solved.

 

[91Bluebird]

i drove 800 miles to colorado and back without overdrive i went about 75 to 80 mph, the rpm's were at 4000 the whole way i onely filled up 3 times each way thats like 260 miles per tank which is good for a dsm. and my car had over 200k on the origional engine with 300 hp. with these cars its all about matnence whith that these engins can handle abuse.

Did you know you were missing OD? If you were going 4000 rpm in 3rd speed would've been more like 60-65 mph. 75-80 mph would've put you up around 4500+. If I was in that situation I would've stayed on the secondary roads and kept the speed down.

Not saying this was the case with you but I wonder how many people (especially newer drivers) have the OD button clicked off and simply drive around in 3rd gear oblivious to the fact that OD is 4th gear in a 4-spd automatic. For local driving it probably wouldn't hurt anything except gas mileage and maybe add a little more wear on the motor but continuous highway driving in 3rd gear is not good.

 

[dsms4ever]

We know your granny ass style of driving and i'm tired of reading what you'd do 91 Bluebird. Stop talking please, your giving me a migrain.

 

[dsmetal]

I agree that it will likely not hurt the engine as long as it is at least somewhat maintained but whats the point of driving around in 3rd all the time at cruising speeds? Save the wear and tear for the race track!