[empie1]

I have owned a decent amount of cars, including 2 other dsms, and have never had issues setting base timing.My current car, 2g tsi, has always been a bitch to time.But, i still managed to get it.However, since i swapped in a 6bolt block (with a 7 bolt head), I have yet to set the timing correctly.Its ALWAYS off a tooth.If i set the exhaust tooth off 1 to compensate for its movement, it wont move.f i line the cams perfect from the beginning, the exhaust rolls off a toothI really dont get what im doing wrong and its so aggrivating i want to sell the car. I reused the 7 bolt crank sprocket, could that be why they never line up?Other than that, I am stumped...any help would be appreciated.thanks
mike

 

[TSi16GAWD]

What are you using to hold the cam sprockets in place, so they don't slip back that tooth?

 

[empie1]

What do you mean?I have 2 17 mm wrenches, but according to the manual, you dont hold them, you set the gear off a tooth and when its tensioned, it should "roll" into alignment....

 

[TSi16GAWD]

That's how I was doing it and it would slip back a tooth on me. If you get those two 17mm wrenches, zip tie the ends in place with everything lined up. Then line it all up and set the tension. Cut the zip ties once it settles. That's the only way I was able to change it without it skipping back on me. Just an idea.
6 months later, still perfect timing.

 

[xXDSMBoostXx]

Binder clips work perfect. When is popping back? Is it when you do the 3 rotations to set and check tention? Or when you crank up the car?

 

[TSi16GAWD]

Binder clips work perfect. When is popping back? Is it when you do the 3 rotations to set and check tention? Or when you crank up the car?

+1 on binder clips for the belt.

 

[tonyroma]

That's how I was doing it and it would slip back a tooth on me. If you get those two 17mm wrenches, zip tie the ends in place with everything lined up. Then line it all up and set the tension. Cut the zip ties once it settles. That's the only way I was able to change it without it skipping back on me. Just an idea.
6 months later, still perfect timing.

Zip ties FTW!

Set everything in time starting with the cam gears. Zip tie them up so they don't move, and then set everything else in time.

 

[MidShipCivic]

I didnt need anything I just pulled the belt with my hand. :-\. Timing went into place.

 

[lazylaser]

when I did mine I had to have my brother hold the 17mm wrench on the 6 bolt exhaust cam sprokett to keep it from rolling aprox a tooth

 

[empie1]

when I did mine I had to have my brother hold the 17mm wrench on the 6 bolt exhaust cam sprokett to keep it from rolling aprox a tooth

I did this and now the bottom crank and oil sprockets went off a tooth, but the cams stayed!!WTF:wall:

 

[v8fierochris]

I have a tool from bluepoint that holds the gears firm and can not slip even if you beat it with a hammer. its a simple little do jobber that works great. I dont know how much they are. it came with my first dsm when i bought it. i can post a pic if someone needs a i deer

 

[TSi16GAWD]

Did you try removing the bolt right near your rear motor mount? If you stick a phillips screwdriver into it, it'll hold your oil pump in phase. The key is, if the screwdriver goes in less than an inch, the sprocket is 180 degrees off. Rotate your oil sprocket to the 12 position. If it falls to 10 oclock, then its good. If it doesnt fall, or barely falls from 12 oclock, then it's out of phase too. Just try the screwdriver method. I think I saw it on VFAQ. I used it and it worked.