VPC and GCC and your all set. A local runs 11.0's on stock 7 bolt 93 block, with a 20g turbo.

 

VPC over blow through anyday

 

Theres a big difference in prices and availability.

 

I know HKS doesnt make the VPC anymore but I'm sure I could find one somewhere. I was just asking cuz I have some money to spend so I was trying to vind the best option.

 

The best option is DSMLink for the money. Over either of the options that you listed.

Or are you asking so that you can vent to the atmosphere?

 

DSMLink with a MAF. It is way too easy to blow shit up with the VPC. It stops adding fuel at 25psi, so any more boost than that and you have to manually add fuel to compensate for the extra airflow. And it tends to give you crazy high timing advance. It isn't odd to see around 32 degrees of advance with a VPC.

The VPC's time has come and gone.

 

The best option is DSMLink for the money. Over either of the options that you listed.

Or are you asking so that you can vent to the atmosphere?

I dont care about venting, I want something that will help me make power.

Dont I need an EPROM for DSMlink?

 

Yes. Even with the cost of an Eprom you are still under what a new (or equivalent) VPC will cost if you shop wisely. DSMLink has much more control over the car and is easier to use to boot.

 

DSMlink is not an afc, and you will not get the insane timing advance you would get with the VPC (or an afc). DSMlink also lets you modify the timing curve to your liking, it is worth every dime they charge for it. Blow-through all the way ..

 

And it is a kick ass logger with wideband support in addition to a tuning tool.

 

The DSMlink developers work very closely with the users and have accepted user-supplied data on a *ton* of different aftermarket sensors and written routines for logging them all on the link. The support level that Tom and Dave supply is second to none.

 

so... blow through with a DSMlink?

 

DSMlink with a blow through mas without a doubt.
Works great for me anyway.

 

Nothing beats DSMLINK another satisfied customer here. Do we need to explain more?

 

I got everything tonight, FMIC w/ piping, GM 3" MAF, and MAF-T for $850. Does DSMLink take the place of an AFC?

 

A afc has nothing a dsmlink
http://www.dsmlink.com/

 

I got everything tonight, FMIC w/ piping, GM 3" MAF, and MAF-T for $850. Does DSMLink take the place of an AFC?

Yes but with waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more features and a higher price tag of course.

 

Do you think your stock MAS is a restriction with that setup?

 

Oh man how can you even ask about these other set ups? DSMLink is by far the best tuning software out there for our DSM's. I dont care what you have, dsmLink is by far the best thing sense your first orgasm! I love it, i HATE TUNING WITH A DAMN SAFC!! its always trial and error with the 2g, the eprom ecu is about 200.00 and the dsmlink is about 550.00, so your talking about 750.00 for the complete package! GO GET IT! the graphs and the fact of whipping out a lab top intimidates people... they're like dammmnnn what you have done to this thing...i love dsmlink.
Just for a insight on DSMLINK i hooked my eprom and played around with my friends STOCK 96 talon awd with a boost controller, and guess what we gained 43whp just out of tuning it. That was only at 12lbs of boost.. that just goes to show you what tuning is all about. go with the link!!

 

Do you think your stock MAS is a restriction with that setup?

I got it cuz my air flter is held in by the clips that held the stock air can to the MAF. I took my intake pipe off to check the model number on my turbo to make sure it was a EVO3 16G and there was dirt in side the tube So I'm just going to get an intake pipe and throw a K&N on the end of it so there will be no more leak.

My next purchase will most likely be an EPROM ECU and a DSMLink. What cars came with an EPROM ECU?

 

i recommend going full stand alone if you got the funds. i personally run a VPC on my mr2 and it allows me to make small changes to the a/f ratio (i use the s-afc for fine tuning), and it eliminates the maf, BUT you can't control boost, ignition, and there is no 2-step (boring!). with a full stand alone you can get most of this stuff.

 

This car is just a cheap beater, my WRX has all the goodies

 

It should be the other way around.

 

lol the DSM would NEVAR get a $6,000 transmission and a $2000 engine management set up

 

Good because it would never need it. If you spent that we would laugh at you.